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Stan Meyer EPG Gas to Power Electric Particle Generator
The movement of charged particles is what electricity
is at its most basic level. When a charged particle moves
it produces a magnetic field.
The movement of said charge is quantified as current.
It flows just like moving water flows, which is why we use the same word.
The force moving the charged particle is voltage.
They are different but related
aspects of the same thing. One makes the movement, the other IS the movement.
Now consider the work with magnetic liquids in California where a drop of magnetic liquid moving through
a coil
3 .questions Are the magnetic droplets acting like the neodymium battery train ( homopolar magnet)
and if the copper coil is made into a circular loop and pickup coils placed around the
"track" ( as in the multitier epg) is useful power obtained from the permanently magnetized droplets
comments?
it is our belief that Stans Work has been keep secret and being slowly handed out to universities to keep them showing something
I deleted my post regard ElectroStatic Pulsing over Magnetic Pulsing.
After reviewing the thread below...
/showthread.php?tid=400&pid=4658#pid4658
I understand now that using magnetics is the ideal mode of use of the EPG, but requires the Argon/Cobalt/Nickel, magnetically polarized gas matrix.
I also, reviewed the "House meeting in New Zealand" video where Stan talks about the EPG and the magnetized gas.
I thought for sure that Stan talks about water propulsion on some video...
Maybe I just mis-understood what he was talking about...
...
Just reviewed the 3rd video of the "House meeting in New Zealand", where he covers the fact that when using laser light within the EPG (He does this to increase the mass of the atomic gas matrix), then, you no-longer need to motivate the gas, because it's the shock wave of the light itself that causes the electrical field generation (which is then caught by the pickup coils), as the electrons move away from the atomic nucleus, which then results is a higher magnetic energy in the gas. Thus, powering all of New Zealand with a single EPG, and entering the relm of OU.
Fascinating...
Now, back to the Magnetic Gas Lattice...
Argon (Lubricator, Non Electric, Non Magnetic)
Cobalt Ions
Nickel Ions
Cobalt Ions
Co^2+, Co^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Cobalt wire.
Nickel Ions
Ni^2+, Ni^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.
Iron Ions
Fe^2+, Fe^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.
Generate Cobalt and Nickel Ions using HV within an Argon filled chamber.
- Pass Gas Mixture through VIC and expose to laser energy.
- This destabilizes the Atomic Structures of the main elements in the Gas. So that that we can extract some electrons from them.
- Use electron extraction circuit to remove extra electrons. Now our atoms will be will to take on covalent bonds that they would normally never take on.
- Allow Unstable Gas to stabilize into the new Gas Matrix by making new covalent bonds.
Pump gases into EPG.
Test EPG for appropriate Magnetic Qualities of the Gas Lattice.
- Does pulsing it result in some energy output from the pickup coils?
Damn! That boy was Brilliant!
- Not just theory, but applied science.
- Mechanics, Electronics, Chemistry, Nuclear Physics...
- Amazing stuff!
-Dogs

The Purpose of these pages is for your to quickly see learn and advance further on replicating Stan Meyers to Assist us getting this open source to market
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As a Team we advance fast
the dates on this aprox 2005
and than 2012 there was alot of work done
than recently 2016 , Years are passing we need people working on this
Not all of the early EPG models of Stanley Meyer's devices used mechanical pumps to move
magnetic slurry or gas within the copper spiral cores. One model used linear magnetic drive
pumps to circulate the slurry/gases. The other was the magnetic spin EPG. The six tier multiple
tier EPG (aka "gega series" or (6Tmaggasepg) designed for home power generation also had
similar pumps. The seven tier system is now thought to have had a bottom tier with electronics
for control of the flow of the magnetic gas but not pickup coils
see attached 2 new images of the EPGs
1. Magnetic Spin EPG
2 Magnetic Drive EPG
3 Example Linear Mag Drive

INDEX TO WFC MEMO 418
COVER
COVER SHEET
PREFACE ELECTRICAL PARTICLE GENERATOR
VOLTAGE INTENSIFIER CIRCUIT AA … … PAGE1
OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS …… PAGE 2
VARIABLE AMPLITUDE UNIPOLAR PULSE … … PAGE 3
APPLIED VOLTAGE TO PLATES … … PAGE 4
LC VOLTAGE .… .. PAGE 5
VIC RESISTANCE DUAL-INLINE RLC NETWORK . ….. PAGE 6
VOLTAGE DYNAMIC .… … PAGE 7
VOLTAGE CALCULATIONS … …. PAGE 8
ATOMIC INTERACTION TO VOLTAGE STIMULATION … … PAGE 9
VOLTAGE STIMULATION OF GAS ATOM … .… PAGE 10
LASER INTERACTION ..… … PAGE 11
GAS RESONANT CAVITY … …… PAGE 12
ELECTRON EXTRACTION PROCESS … ……PAGE 13
ATOMIC BONDING OF UNLIKE ATOMS … ……PAGE 14
MAGNETIC GAS LATTICE …… … PAGE 15
ELECTROMAGNETIC ENHANCEMENT …… … PAGE 16
OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS ...… … PAGE 17
APPENDIX .
INDEX TO FIGURES FIGURE 1-1 VOLTAGE INTENSIFIER CIRCUIT (AA) PAGE 1
FIGURE 1-2 LC CIRCUIT SCHEMATIC PAGE 2
FIGURE 9B VARIABLE AMPLITUDE UNIPOLAR PULSE VOLTAGE PAGE 3
VOLTAGE FREQUENCY SUPER IMPOSED ONTO A 50% DUTY CYCLE PULSE TRAIN
FIGURE 9BB. APPLIED VOLTAGE TO PLATES PAGE 4
FIGURE 1-3. VOLTAGE POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE PAGE 7
FIGURE 1-5. GAS DESTABILIZATION PROCESS PAGE 10
FIGURE 1-6. LED CLUSTER ARRAY PAGE 11
FIGURE 20 JX GAS RESONANT CAVITY PAGE 12
FIGURE 1-7. ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT PAGE 13
FIGURE 1-8. COVALENT LINKUP OF UNLIKE ATOMS PAGE 14
FIGURE 1-9. MAGNETIZED GAS LATTICE PAGE 15
FIGURE 1-10. STIMULATING AN ELECTROMAGNETIC ATOM PAGE 16
FIGURE 1-11. ELECTRICAL PARTICLE GENERATOR PAGE 17 .
APPENDIX TO MEMO 418
LIST OF PHOTGRAPHS, FIGURES AND EXHIBITS
FIG. 26 EPG PRINCIPLE: ALLOWING A PERMANENTLY MAGNETIZED FLUID MEDIUM TO PASS THROUGH A PICKUP COIL FIG. 26 C: MULTI-TIER EPG ELECTRICAL GENERATOR
FIG. 27 EPG MECHANICAL DRIVE GAS ACCELERATOR
FIG. 28 EPG ELECTRICAL MAGNETIC GAS ACCELERATOR
FIG. 29 EPG PHOTON DRIVE GAS ACCELERATOR
FIG. 30 LINEAR GAS COIL ACCELERATOR
PHOTO EXHIBIT ZX: EPG MECHANICAL DRIVE ASSEMBLY
PHOTO EXHIBIT ZY: EPG ELECTROMAGNETIC PUMP ASSEMBLY
PHOTO EXHIBIT ZB: MAGNETIC SPIN GENERATOR
PHOTO EXHIBIT JX: GAS RESONANT CAVITY ASSEMBLY
MAKING MOLECULES*
POLAR MOLECULES*
METAL CONNECTIONS*
ELECTRONS: PARTICLES OF POWER*
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES*
NOTES: In the original document some pages were out of order and several figures inadvertently included twice.
The appropriate corrections were made in this edition with duplicate pages deleted and pages placed in the proper order.
*Also found in other Stan Meyer publications.



Above is a photo of one of Stanley's EPG system.
The EPG system or Electrical Particle Generator is basically a particle accelerator.
The EPG system is something that Stan was working on along with the Water Fuel Cell technology. It is suppose to be able to amplify the incoming signal/power to a much greater amperage / voltage.
It seems that not many people know that Stan was even working on this system. I have been doing extensive research and development on this system.
Some Important Notes from alot of study
After Studying Searl Magnetic SEG 2 things seam very apparent and possible with Stand machines
I call these Introvert (Stans Way) and extrovert.( electrons from our side tube)
Introvert
1a
The Stan Meyer Invert Method his stated method of having a magnetic gas move through tube,
could in fact be improved by have sensitive fer rite pickup inside the tube to make the voltage spikes, further enhancing stand magnetic stimulation of coils on outside of tube. Some of this was thought of as Searl Using the Gathering and Damming of electron using ferit in his system.
1b
it could also extract elections from gas inside tube which is not necessary;y same as Stan methods
similar to a Magnetic Flow Meter which would increase sensitivity of a could pickup or magnetic movement of a pick up coil, ( as there seam to be some debate about the copper preventing the magnetic gas making flux in pick up coils coil.
Extrovert
It seams pulsing gas with LED Laser will cause lithium oxygen and h2 to cool and become magnetic.
Also of Large Turbine use pure h2 to cool the machines ,gas flows through and cool the steel
some run the gas through the stators.
it is total possible that h2 or Magnetic gas compose could impart more electrons into the stator by attracting electron from air.
And Such the Epg Stans Unit will get vert cold when gas flowing as a rate of speed through it
it will in fact attract electron from air these could be harvested just like searl did. As the Ionising and air will flow to centre of egp.
Further pulsing with laser will increase the effect
Reference
Scientists Create First Ever Magnetic Gas
By Stuart Fox September 18, 2009
https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-09/scientists-create-first-ever-magnetic-gas
Article Clipping
For decades, scientists have debated whether or not gasses could display the same magnetic properties
as solids. Now, thanks to some MIT scientists, they know the answer is a freezing cold yes.
MIT researchers have observed magnetism in an atomic gas of lithium cooled down to 150 millionths
of a degree above absolute zero. This experiment represents a point of unification between condensed
matter research and the field of atomic science and lasers, and could influence areas such as data storage
and medical diagnostics.
To get the lithium gas so cold, the researchers trained an infrared laser beam on the gaseous cloud.
Laser cooling is the primary method physicists use to lower gas temperatures to near absolute zero.
The laser essentially stun the atoms, slowing them down, and thus lowering the temperature.
After initially growing, the cloud began to shrink. That shrinkage, combined with the speed of
expansion after the laser turned off, indicated that the lithium atoms had become magnetic.
"It's very important from an overall theoretical point of view because it gives us an understanding
of magnetism at its smallest possible scale," Scott Pritchard, an MIT professor, and one of
the experiment leaders, told us.
Improving magnetic gas directions or coil sensitivity

Backup of Video

Russ Made this Unit 2012
to try and study it design and use he never got it working we can learn from it
This is my Copper EPG i will be using for testing. The wire will be installed next, at a bare minimum there will be close to 2 miles of AWG22 magnet wire on this EPG.
You can see my first attempt at the EPG using plastic at the end of this page.
Here is some of the progress i have made. The divider plates are installed, next i start the wire winding.
I'm building a wire winder (the wood in the background ) to help wind the 2+ miles of wire... thanks to YouTube user hawk491000 for the idea on the winder!
Update Photo Here: as of 2-8-12


Stanley A Meyer Mechanical Pump EPG coil parameters
LENGTH
Method 1.
The diameter of the outermost EPG channel or loop can be estimated.at about 17 inches
Therefore the outer circumference can be estimated at 17 x Pi inches
By dividing the circumference by the observed number of coils an estimated length of each coil can be made.
A further refinement in precision can be made by subtraction of the total length L occupied by coil spacers.
So in the case where you count, let's say as way of example, 59 coils and 60 coil end spacers, each winding is
1/59th of the circumference of 53.4 inches or calculated at about 0.905 inches long.
Method 2.
Because of the high resolution photographs available, estimates of a coil can be made directly.
Using a known measurement such as the outside diameter of tubing ie. 0.500 inches
in conjunction with a screen distance tool in Photoshop(r) or another program such as
Screen Caliper(r) the length of the coil can be made.
THICKNESS
Since the outside diameter of the core channel is known, an estimate of the thickness of depth of winding
may be obtained by using photogrammetry to estimate the thickness of the winding.
The total thickness or height of the wound coil is first measured. Then the core diameter is then subtracted.
the resulting figure is then divided by two. This is the height or thickness of the winding around the core
So now we have what is call a winding window with height H and length L.
H TIMES L = A the area of the winding window. Think of it a a cross-sectional view of
the coil windings with the ends of each wire being viewed.
Something like this:
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
representing 3 layers of wire with 12 wraps (the II symbolizing the coil dividers)
3 layers of wire by 12 wires wide or 36 turns or wraps of wire around a bobbin
IIooooooooooooooooooII
IIooooooooooooooooooII
HooooooooooooooooooII
In this exsmple, a thinner wire could be wound 18 times on the same length of bobbin.
NUMBER OF WINDS
Since the gauge of the wire can be estimated with a good amount of precision
,the use of circle packing theory (see wiki) theory can be used to determine the
number of turns that can fit through this winding window( Area equals Height
times length.
One factor that helps, is that wires come in standard thicknesses or diameters
For convenience the AWG (American Wire Gauge) is used in electrical
and electronic work, Electrical wiring in the U.S. is often 10,12 or 14AWG
Electronic work is often uses 18,22, or 30 AWG gauge wire
Whatever the reason the smaller the AWG number, the thicker or larger
the diameter of wire!!
The reason this helps in photogrammetry, is that the gauges are discrete values
Look at this table:
AWG Diameter in inches AWG Diameter in Inches
10 .1019 20 .0320
12 .0808 22 .0253
14 .0641 24 .0201
16 .0508 26 .0159
18 .0403 28 .0126
30 .0101
The 16 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 18 gauge
The 22 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 24 gauge
Not to get too technical, but this is a logarithmic scale, but the important concept
is the PERCENTAGE OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAUGES IS LARGE
in relation to the precision achievable in photogrammetry
This means for a given photogrammetric distance is it easier to pick out the exact
gauge of wire used because the precision of the that method is often less than 2 to 5%.
PACKING FRACTION
There is a branch of mathematics which describes how many circles of uniform
size can be drawn in a given area. It goes by several names but let's just call it
Circle Packing Theory.
By determining the winding window size, the appropriate circle packing fraction can be used to
determine a close estimate of the number of windings per coil. In the previous example
cross-section of a coil, it represents one type of winding
Another type is hexagonal winding, with the layers arranged more like a honeycomb
And thirdly there is a random type of winding with lots of crossover and gaps
The hexagonal packing is the closest or most densest method of winding coils
with a value of 0.906 or about 91% of the area occupied by wire with the
balance of the area being gaps between the wires
Square geometry winding with each winding of wire directly on top the
layer below( No offset) has a value of 0.785 It is not at close or dense
a winding as hexagonal winding
A random wind often a more gaps but the packing ratio is highly dependent
on the size of the wire relative the length and width of the winding window
Consider for a moment two equally sized sheets of sandpaper.
One is coated coarse grade grit, the other coated coated with a fine grit used for
final sanding. The arrangement of the sand grains is random in both
cases but there are fewer grain of sand on the coarse paper and
many more grains of sand on the finer grit paper.
This is analogous to the number of random winding or wraps of wire in a given
cross sectional area on a bobbin. Intuitively very small wire gauges have a
higher packing fraction than large. This is a difficult value to quantify
SO IN SOME CASES IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF TURNS
IN SOME CASES EMPIRCAL METHODS OR TEST WINDINGS MIGHT BE NECESSARY
As an example if the winding window is 1 square inch and the AWG is 22, and the tighter hexagonal
winding factor is used(0.906) then 0.906 square inches of that window is occupied by the area of the wire..
The cross-sectional area of AWG 22 is 0.0005 inches.
0.906/divided by 0.0005 =approx 1800 turns
With precision or square winding a factor of 0.78 can be used resulting in an estimate of 1560 turns through
a 1 inch square window
SUMMARY
Basically the application of the above method may be used to estimate the number
of windings for an EPG coil by photogrammetric means in some cases
As search of empircal transformer design charts might be instructive for this third case
MISCELLANEOUS COMMENT
POWER OUTPUT DEPENDS ON METHOD OF WIRING PICKUP COILS
It appears as though the mechanical drive epg was wired in parallel lower voltage and and a
higher amperage due to more coils
While the multitier EPG was higher voltage due to fewer coils and many windings which required of multiple tiers
It also could be that the effective value of the flux in the mag-gas systems was lower that the higher density ferro fluids
which might explain the need to operate at 90 ips velocity



Russ Epg Build Attempt

















The Picture Below show the end game System Stan Made
Top is a HCAT hho no flame can be turned to heat and water video to right
heat can further go to boiler or steam turbine


A0201-01 Thanks sandia24 . Nice work
A0201-03 I was setting up the variable list for Problem 4 on the power output ad input see if this is reasonable--Q's on
clarification or suggestions to team drop box or pm if your are an ionizationx member
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MAIN DISCUSSION FOLLOWS BELOW
VARIABLE LIST AND VALUE RANGE
VARIABLE VALUE SOURCE/// REFERENCE
V1 = velocity of magnetic field movement per second 50-90 ips In 2019 Handout in Bremen Conference
N1 = number of twists per unit length of non-magnetic spiral divider per unit length 0.3 - 1.2 Estimate for M4steel considering thickness
and core diameter.
N3 = value of magnetic field strength ? TBD by calc. and type of EPG
F1 = value of the frequency pulsing alignment coils for dyne-axis of magnetic field 60 Hz/sec Mains frequency in US 50 some parts of EU--- wiki
N4= number of coils per tier 1 - 58 Don Gabel, photogrammetry and SEPG022,
N5 = number of turns in each coil 200 - 12000 Estimates using packing fractions, winding depth,
length photogrammetry as secondary verification
P1 = effective cross-section winding factor: random, hexagonal or precision winding 0.78- 0.906 Wiki refs circle packing theory
N6 = number of core sectors enclosed by pick-up coil 3- 4 Don Gabel images of various EPG's
N7= number of tiers 1 - 7 Birth of New Technology 1994 or 1995 ed
A1= cross-sectional area of tubing uses in EPG tier ( in inches0 0.218- 0.254 The Copper Handbook
Power Input Variables
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W1 = watts required for initiation of flow ( Initial inertial load) Rheological, mass density and volume consideration TBC
W2= steady state power load for mag-media circulation see appendix TBC
W3 = dyne-axis load see appendix TBC
Known values
N1 known
N2 known
N3 calculation to be completed
N4 known
N5 known
N6 known
F1 known
P1 known
V1 known
Stated design output was 220 VAC @ 300 amps ( per seminar notes)
A0202-01 Let's try another attempt at N3. At one of the conferences in 2019 ( SMC 2019 Bremen Ohio), it was proposed that the Transformer EMF
equation might be used in the mathematical model of the Meyer EPG series regarding the flux density problem.
Through photogrammetry the maximum number of turns , number of coils, diameter and volume of the core
magnetized slurry/gas can be determined. Since the output power, velocity, and frequency are known with some precision
It may be possible to arrange the transformer EMF equation to obtain a Beta Max for the flux density!!
Another observation was made at the 2019 Bremen Conference that the larger the core volume, the lower value of the magnetic
saturation could be and still maintain the same power output. This is because the total power output for the device is dependent
in part upon the total amount of flux present in the magnetic core.
A0202-02 Correct, if the other design factors such as the number of coils, number of winds and same velocity of the magnetic
gas or slurry are maintained, the limitations of the maximum level of magnetic saturation of the EFH series ferrofluids
can be mitigated. Basically scale up the volume and the magnetic saturation can be lower and still provide the
design power output. While the 400 Hz mil-spec converters are still an option for the magnetic drives I think
you may want to just keep it simple so that operating frequency matches the 50 or 60 Hz standards for output for
residential use.
A0202-03 thnx to thorzpwr
A0203=01 ok, you forgot to hide your location ,metadata I'll fix it zo the mib's don't get ya....lol
A0205-01 Since output data is only available for the 6Tmaggas EPG and for the velocity of the magnetic medium, 'I think a problem approach might be
to determine the flux in the 6 multi-tier system as if EFH-1 was present and then scale down to the magnetic pump system and volume of EFH-1
at the stated velocity and use a ,calculated flux density to determine output characteristics of the magnetic pump device in terms of output.
The sizing of the bus bars, the parallel arrangement of the pick-up coils and the breakdown voltage of the insulation might put some upper
limits to how it was being operated and limits to the possible voltagexs and amps produced
Design output 220 VAC at 300 amps = 66,000 watts
A020601 So now let's assign values to some of the variables
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Cross sectional area is calculated as follows:
1. determine the diameter of the tubing 0.5" obtained by photogrammetry 0.5 outside diameter
also confirmed by actual measurement by Don Gabel . (see notebook photos)
2. determine the range of. possible internal diameters Common types of pipe K L and M that have the
same outside diameter but thickness of inner diameter and wall thickness vary.
Stan Meyer may have used pre-coiled air conditioning or water supply tubing. for ease of construction.
A very useful free reference is The Copper Tubing Handbook fermi which provides the specifications and measurements
for copper tubing and pipe.
You can google The Copper Tubing Handbook for the pdf or just click on this link:
https://pbar.fnal.gov/organizationalchart/Leveling/2004%20water%20cage%20work/Cutubehandbook.pdf
One observation concerning the publicly available EPG images, it that there do not seem to be joints on the spiralled sections
themselves although the connecting copper pipes to the pumps or other means of moving the slurry or gas are straight.
I believe Stan Meyerswas practical and tried to keep things simple, so I believe he just used piping that was already coiled when purchased.
So, now let's use the above reference to get a range of possible values for the cross-sections of the copper tubing and pipes
commonly available.. Copper pipe has three basic wall thicknesses: Type K, Type L and Type M So even though the outside
diameter may remain the same, a THICKER wall means a SMALLER cross-section inside the tube
So here's the values of cross-sectional area for different copper tubing and pipe in square inches:
Type K 0.218 Type L 0.233 Type M 0.254 So the cross-sectional area for coiled copper pipe is between 0.218 and 0.254 square inches
Since the 6 tier system is not available for examination at this time, there is a degree of imprecision for the cross-sectional area value
Because the cross-sectional area is used in volume calculations and in the calculation of total magnetic flux for these systems, the estimates
of system performance depend upon the type of tubing used in the construction
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Length of tubing carrying magnetic slurry/gas
Since the EPGs are of a general circular design, the formula C = D x Pi or stated -- Circumference of a circle equals the
diameter of the circle multiplied by Pi (approximately 3.1416)
Now, if you are trying to find the total length of tubing used in an EPG which is a spiral, for example(In this case exactly
3 loops, then thinkof this as 3 circles each with a different diameter and circumference
The outer loop is longer than the middle loop which is in turn larger the the innermost ring of loop.
So roughly speaking, let's say you had an EPG like the Magnetic Drive (Red Pump) System and that by examination
or photogrammetryand it was determined that diameter was 17 inches.
If you are using 1/2 inch tubing in the construction, what would be the diameter of the middle loop?
The radius of the middle loop is moved in by 1/2 inch because of the width of the outer loop or to put it another
way, the diameter of the middle loop would be 16 inches measured across its outside By a similar reasoning, the innermost loop
is or about 15 inches in diameter.
So the length the spiral is approximately ( 15 + 16 + 17) times Pi. Now Stan Meyer for reasons of type of pump used (B-500 had input and output
connections at right angles)then some portions of the spiral had four loops instead of three so adjustments will have to be
made for this added length. The total length of is important because this is used in the calculations
for the Volume of gas or ferrofluid being used and also in the calculations for inductance and the number windings for the
coils as well as the length of wire required for making the windings
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Coils and length of wire need for project and per coil
End View "Tube" length
A formula for a single wind around a single circular core O diameter of wire times 1
1.A formula for multiple winds around a singular tubular core of length L O diameter of wire x N number of windings or wraps
2 A formula for multiple winds around two adjacent tubular cores of length L OO diameter of wire x N number of windings or wraps
.3 A formula for multiple winds around three adjacent tubular cores of length OOO diameter of wire x N number of windings or wraps
4 General Formula for multiple winds around multiple tubes OOOO... diameter of wire x N number of windings or wraps
So the length of the tube determines the total number of wraps possible independent of the number of adjacent tubes
(close wraps no spacing between wraps on tube
Formula Length of tube (think inductor core) equals the number of wraps times the width or diameter of the wire L= N times W or L/ divided by W = N
ay of determining the number of wraps that can fit on a given length of tube or core
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Now for the fun part determining the Length of Wire needed for one wrap around multiple adjacent cores
Formula for 1 core O L = Diameter of core times Pi
Formula for 2 adjacent cores OO L = (Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 2D <--- for the wire that bridges the "notch" between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
Formula foe 3 adjacent cores OOO L = (Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 4D <--- to account for the length needed to bridge 2 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
Formula for 4 adjacent cores OOOO L = Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 6D <--- To account for the length needed to bridge 3 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
In summary, we now can calculate the length of a single wrap of wire around multiple adjacent cores and if we multiply that by the number of wraps or turns that can be wrapped on a given linear length of core
it is helpfun in deciding amount of wire needed
General Formula for Single Layer 1 wrap or turn around multiple adjacent tubes
L length equals ( Diameter of core or tube) plus ( ( N or number of cores minus 1) times 2)
So now is possible to calculate the number of winds or wraps (single layer0 around an EPG if we know the diameter of the outermost core of a spiralled EPG, the number of "loops" in the spiral, the outside
diameter of the core tubing and the gauge, diameter or width of the wire used to wrap the core
t
So lets give a quick try for the multitier 6TmaggasEPG
1 tier is about 17 inches in diameter. Since the line drawing of the 7 tier system and photographs show the drain/connecting tubes are 180 degrees apart so its possible to keep the number of loops for a tier to
be 2.5 3.5 or 4.5 loops or if the connecting tubes are all exact integers of loops the connecting tube could be all on one side. Or the direction of the flow could be counterclockwise one one tier and clockwise in the other tier. So based on the line drawing lets say that that each tier has 3.5 loops
Length of core for 1 tier [ ( 15+16+17)]times Pi ] plus( 1/2 times 14 times Pi) = 150.78 + 29.99 = 172.77 inches 6 tiers 1036 inches
172.77 inches divided by .025 inches per turn (22 gauge wire by photogrammetry = maximum 6910 turns per tier
6 times 6910 = 41,460 turns or if you use exactly 3 loops per tier 150.78 times 6 = 904 inches 904 divided by 0.025 = about 36,191 turns 6 tiers 906 inches
Image a n inductor with between 36 and 41 thousand turns of wire and between 75 and 86 feet long !! depending on method of construction
Design parameters Metric
The design output is 220 volts at 300 amp draw 66,000 watts (Watts)
(W) 220 times 300 amp draw = 66,000 watts
The cross-sectional area of the core is between 0.218 and 0.254 square in
or (A) = 1.406 to 1.634 sq cm or 0.0001406 0.0001634 square meters
F (frequency) is 60 cycle/ second AC
V (voltage) is 220 volts AC output
K Constant = 4.44
Solving of Bm =BetaMax
Basic equation
V = voltage
F = supply frequency
N = number of turns
A = cross sectional area in square meters
B = peak magnetic flux density in Weber / meter squared or T tesla
K = 4.44
V = 4.44 x F x N x A x B or rearranging this
B = divided by( 4.44 x f x N x a )
so let's try plugging in a few figures for a six tier device
V = voltage 220 VAC
F= 60 hertz per second in the US
N= 11,873
A = 0. 000468 sq m area 3 channels of pipe x 0.242 sq inches divided by conversion factor 1550 = 000468 square metres
4.44 = constant
Bmax = 220/ 1480 or 0.1486 Wb/M squared or Tesla for the 5/8" six tier system4.44 times F*N * BetaMax * A
Rearranging: BetaMax = V divided by ( 4.44 x F x N x A)
220 divided by( 4.44 times 60 Hz/sec frequency times 36191 x .218 A sq inches = .0001046
now to work on units. with a different diameter..
V = 220 VAC...
F = supply frequency
N = number of turns
A = cross sectional area in square meters
B = peak magnetic flux density in Wb / meter squared or T tesla
K = constant
V = 4.44 x F x N x A x Bmax, or rearranging this
Bmax = V divided by( 4.44 * F * N * A )
so let's try plugging in a few figures for a six tier device with a 5/8" OD copper spiral
V = voltage 220 VAC
F= 60 hertz per second in the U
N = 11,87
A = 0. 000468 sq m area 3 channels of pipe x 0.242 sq inches divided by conversion factor 1550 = 000468 square metres
B = BetaMax
K = 4.44 ( constant )
Thus Bmax = 220/ 1480 or 0.1486 Wb/M squared or Tesla for the 5/8" six tier system
[ b]Next Topic Multiple layer coils
In terms of construction if the cross sectional area is changed because of using a larger diameter tubing but keeping N number of turns the same and the length of the
spiralled coils is the same and other factors the same (same desired output) t because the output is related to the amount of flux of the core, the larger the core in terms
of cross section (and volume) means that a lower Beta value in the core of the upsized EPG can still result in the desired power output. Basically if more power is
needed the large core can allow for a lower amount of flux to be used if there is a limit to magnetic saturation for the slurry or mag-gas matrix.
This is more useful to calculate wire requirements for the Mechanical Pump EPG .
Since it's possible to estimate the thickness of the coils, the length of the original coils,
the gauge of the wire and velocity of the ferrofluid 50 ips and using a flux value estimate
a power output for the Mechanical Pump EPG.
Stanley A Meyer Useful Reference Books for EPG Design
« on: February 16, 2021, 16:58:44 pm »
Inductance Calculations by Frederick W Grover
Classical Electromagnetism by Jerrold Franklin
Solved Problems in Classical Magnetism by Jerrold Franklin
all published at one time or another by www.doverpublications.com
inductor calculator
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/coil-inductance-calculator/
link to EFH-1 permeability
https://www.elektr.polsl.pl/images/elektryka/229/229-2.pdf
p 18 mu = 1.789 for ferrotec EPH1
Stanley A Meyer Negative Viscosity of Ferrofluids and EPG Design Considerations
« on: February 21, 2021, 14:38:29 pm »
The ability of ferrofluids to exhibit negative viscosities has implications for the selection of ferrofluids
used in the Meyer mechanical drive EPG as well as the linear magnetic drive systems.
Although there are viscosity measurements provided by the manufacturer of the EFH series ferrofluids and
it was postulated that the selection of the EFH -1 over the then available EFH- 4 which had a greater viscosity
(but also a higher percent of magnetite and magnetic susceptibility) was primarily given a greater importance
then magnetic susceptibility as a design factor.
If ferrofluids have a lower viscosity under an alternating magnetic field this observation might allow the use of
higher viscosity ferrofluids than those used by Stanley A Meyer
A possible effect of the alignment coils in the mechanical pump EPG design may be to reduce the viscosity
of the ferrofluid before and after pumping. There are also implications for the velocity of gaseous magnetic
matrices in the multi-tier series of EPG which used linear magnetic pumps.
see attachment or internet search for "negative viscosity of ferrofluid under alternating magnetic field"
TY - JOUR
AU - Shliomis, Mark
AU - Morozov, Konstantin
PY - 1994/08/01
SP - 2855
EP - 2861
T1 - Negative viscosity of ferrofluid under alternating magnetic field
VL - 6
DO - 10.1063/1.868108
JO - Physics of Fluids - PHYS FLUIDS
ER -
Stanley A Meyer EPG and Manufacture of Paramagnetic Slurries
« on: March 04, 2021, 01:51:44 am »
A previous post detailed a possible process for the manufacture of ferro argonide dust or powders to be circulated in
the electrical particle generated with the circular or spiraled channel of the devices
Ferro-Tec, a major supplier of ferrofluids to the world sells dry magnetite powders. It might be possible to mix these with
low viscosity carrier fluids perhaps a thin silane ,or mineral oil to create a slurry with high magnetic saturation
with viscosity appropriate for the mechanical pump and linear magnetic drive series of EPGs
The new polyethylene glycol PEG ferrofluids have very low viscosity but are aqueous in nature
Other dry powders are available with various for coatings which might allow a variety of optimum liquid carriers.
Not all of the early EPG models of Stanley Meyer's devices used mechanical pumps to move
magnetic slurry or gas within the copper spiral cores. One model used linear magnetic drive
pumps to circulate the slurry/gases. The other was the magnetic spin EPG. The six tier multiple
tier EPG (aka "gega series" or (6Tmaggasepg) designed for home power generation also had
similar pumps. The seven tier system is now thought to have had a bottom tier with electronics
for control of the flow of the magnetic gas but not pickup coils. The library group has located
documentation by people who either saw the device or saw an arkived video recording of it
powering a row of incandescent bulbs
see attached 3 new images of the EPGs and a linear pump cross-section
Photo Label Source
1 Mechanical Drive EPG Stanley Meyer Arkive (c)
2 Magnetic Drive EPG Stanley Meyer Arkive (c)
3 Example Linear Mag Drive Wiki






The 7Tier maggas EPG had a plywood base and row of 6 incandescent. bulbs.
After Stan's passing this was not present in the inventory that QCI ultimately acquired
Also it was not present at the L3 unit when the TOP assessment was made.

But Which Gas?
I think helium is a good choice. I looked up Helium 3 which is used with MRI machines to scan the inside of lung passage ways. He3 has magnetic properties that can be viewed on the MRI machine.
ote the similarity to what Haisch and Moddel did with a Casimir cavity and a noble gas...
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-05-quantum-physics-ii-fall-2013/lecture-notes/MIT8_05F13_Chap_07.pdf#page=13
BACK UP DOCUMENT
One can use a voltage gradient to separate the two states of ammonia (N-Up, N-Down), pump the N-Up into a resonant cavity, then feed that resonant cavity with 23.87 GHz to force the N-Up ammonia molecules to relax to their ground state, giving off microwave photons in the process. The energy given off is in resonance with the 23.87 GHz pump. https://www.kenwood.com/i/products/info/amateur/ts50s.html
Since ammonia will naturally be a mixture of N-Up and N-Down, given time, the 'relaxed' ammonia when released from the resonant cavity will regain the normal proportion of N-Up and N-Down due to random thermal fluctuations forcing some of the ammonia molecules back into an N-Up state. Rinse and repeat.
This is the basis for a MASER (Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation).
Could this have been what Stan Meyer was doing with his "magnetic gas", using the microwaves to dissociate water?
Fascinating!
I seem to remember that the exhaust of his buggy was reported as foul smelling, ammonia. Would he only exhaust it after an extraction cycle? Is there enough to be extracted? From what I understood before, the water (or it's components) from the fuel tank was somehow made to react with intake air, the nitrogen finding it's way to the NH3 ammonia exhaust fumes. If there is some serious energy left in the form of ammonia obtained this way, one can expect Stan to have extracted it.
Stan's work is very compelling, way above my comprehension. I hope someone figures it out, or takes a part of the work and gets it to stand by itself.
US2780069 Precession.pdf -
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Stanley A Meyer EPG and Stable Room Temperature Magnetic Liquid Compounds
« on: March 21, 2021, 16:12:07 pm
Stanley A Meyer is said to have designed EPG devices that circulated magnetic gases and liquids
To date, the creation of magnetic gas matrices has proven challenging to the various EPG researchers
and working groups . While the EPG design and concepts have been fairly well elucidated by Miner,
Greis, and Hauswirth, et al,' the use of stable magnetic compounds that are single entity liquids may open
up a novel method of electrical generation in the liquid EPG systems.
"Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form
1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with
magnetic properties. However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a
change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic
ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid. Moreover, this magnetic ionic
liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic
susceptibility at room temperature."
The magnetic susceptibility can be further increased by the addition of nano-particles in the 10 to 100 size range
that are used in the ferrofluid technologies. In this situation the carrier fluid has a magnetic component to it as
well as the particles in suspension. The kerosene based ferro-fluids such EFH and EMG series Ferrotech(r)
would be good choice for the Series 6 trial The ionic/aqueous ferrofluids will be addressed in Series 7 trials
source diagrams and chemicals
https://www.tcichemicals.com/US/en/c/12839�
Magnetic Ionic Liquids
Ionic liquids consist of only ionic components, having high ionic conductivity suitable for a liquid electrolyte. An electrolyte for a secondary battery requires not only high ionic conductivity but also non-volatility, heat-resistivity, non-inflammability, and non-corrosiveness. Ionic liquids cover these conditions. The cationic component of ionic liquid involves alkyl-substituted imidazolium, pyrrolidinium, piperidinium, ammonium, phosphonium, sulfonium and the anionic component involves halide, BF4, PF6, thiocyanate, and di(sulfonyl)imide. Chemical modifications of the cation and anion control melting point, viscosity and ionic conductivity. Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form 1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with magnetic properties. However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid. Moreover, this magnetic ionic liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic susceptibility at room temperature.




























































































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Attached is a representation of a Nickel Argonide (NiAr) gas matrix based on
the FeAr gas matrix shown in the Meyer New Zealand video and also the CoAr
it's interesting that Meyer shows (in a 2d representation) iron and argon sharing 4 electrons
The argon +1 ion can be achieved by high voltage sparks in a rarified argon gas
Additional "laser" excitement might allow more atoms in the outer shell to
leave the outer ring especially if in the presence of an electron extraction circuit
A number of factors make it easier to extract the electrons from the transitional
metals used partly because of a lower ionization energy due to the greater distance
of the outer electron shell from the positive nucleus and that there\are more available
electrons to be pulled off. I suspect that in a 3d configuration of the FeAr matrix
is similar to the cubic orthography of NaCl. However the stability of the FeAr matrix
may be enhanced by the stabilizing forces due to the paramagnetism of FE Co or Ni
This is in addition to the ionic bonding force qq
The gas may be more of a nanocluster light enough to be carried by the Argon
carrier gas analogous to sand in water or quicksand 3 to 20 FeAr per clump





































































































EPG Power System
Gas Transformer
Could the very first patent Stan Meyer ever submitted be the key to understanding his subsequent water fuel related inventions? Meyer titled this patent “Electrical Particle Generator”, a name which would not attract too much attention to itself.
Furthermore, Meyer never patented this device in the USA. He only patented it in the Canadian patent office which had much less traffic at the time. Did Meyer want to place this invention into the public record while, in some sense, keeping the “secret” hidden in plain sight.
The patent for this invention can be downloaded here.
Stan referred to this device in his subsequent patents as the “Unipolar Pulsing Core Transformer”, a name which anyone who has spent time on Meyer’s work will recognize.
But what exactly is this device?

Here is how it operates:

How can one get magnetized gas into the core? Here is the approach that I took:


Here are pictures of my first implementation of the device.

When one adds primary and secondary windings on to this core and then energizes the primary with a flow of charge, a magnetic field is produced.
The magnetized oxyhydrogen gas particles which have been added into the core are attracted to the S end of the primary magnetic field and repelled by the N end of the same field.
The effect is accelerative upon the particles. As the gas flow velocity increases, the particles move ever faster around the core.
The faster the particles are accelerated, the greater the charge amplitude induced on the secondary side as the “tiny magnets” pass in a fluid aggregate over these windings.

Note that PVC or flexible vinyl tubing works better for fluid core construction then copper or aluminum.
The first core I made (shown above) was made from copper, but in subsequent builds I used PVC.
Copper and aluminum have a dampening effect upon magnetic fields and so are a poor choice for use in the core.
In many of Meyer’s patents (such as seen below), he refers to a Unipolar Magnetic Field Coupling and uses his “Loop” symbol notation.

Here Meyer refers to the gas filled “pulsing core”, and it’s “unipolar magnetic field coupling” action.
He always used these cryptic circles on his block diagrams to indicate the effect. Of course, he never disclosed this notation explicitly.
I think this notation represents the magnetic fields of tiny magnetized gas ions, which when accelerated by the primary coil on the gas core, moves across the secondary coil.

A0201-03 I was setting up the variable list for Problem 4 on the power output ad input see if this is reasonable--Q's on
clarification or suggestions to team drop box or pm if your are an ionizationx member
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MAIN DISCUSSION FOLLOWS BELOW
VARIABLE LIST AND VALUE RANGE
VARIABLE VALUE SOURCE/// REFERENCE
V1 = velocity of magnetic field movement per second 50-90 ips In 2019 Handout in Bremen Conference
N1= number of twists per unit length of non-magnetic spiral divider per unit length .3 - 1.2 Estimate for M4 considering thickness and core diameter
N3= value of magnetic field strength ? TBD by calc. and type of EPG
F1 = value of the frequency pulsing alignment coils for dyne-axis of magnetic field 60 Hz/sec Mains frequency in US 50 some parts of EU--- wiki
N4= number of coils per tier 1 - 58 Don Gabel, photogrammetry and SM EPG022,
N5 =number of turns in each coil 200 - 12000 Estimates using packing fractions, winding depth and length and
photogrammetry
P1 = effective cross-section winding factor: random, hexagonal or precision winding 0.78- 0.906 Wiki refs circle packing theory
N6 = number of core sectors enclosed by pick-up coil 3- 4 Don Gabel images of various EPG's
N7= number of tiers 1 - 7 Birth of New Technology 1994 or 1995 editions
A1= cross-sectional area of tubing uses in EPG tier ( in inches0 0.218- 0.254 The Copper Handbook
Power Input Variables
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W1 = watts required for initiation of flow ( Initial inertial load) Rheological, mass density and volume consideration TBC
W2= steady state power load for mag-media circulation see appendix TBC
W3 = dyne-axis load see appendix TBC
Known values
N1 known
N2 known
N3 calculation to be completed
N4 known
N5 known
N6 known
F1 known
P1 known
V1 known
Stated design output was 220 VAC @ 300 amps seminar notes
A0202-01 Let's try another attempt at N3. At one of the conferences in 2019, it was proposed that the Transformer EMF SMC 2019 Bremen Oh
equation might be used in the mathematical model of the Meyer EPG series regarding the flux density problem
Through photogrammetry the maximum number of turns , number of coils, diameter and volume of the core
magnetized slurry/gas can be determined. Since the output power, velocity, and frequency are known with some precision,
it may be possible to arrange the transformer EMF equation to obtain a Beta Max for the flux density!!
Another observation was made at the 2019 Bremen Conference that the larger the core volume, the lower value of the magnetic
saturation could be and still maintain the same power output. This is because the total power output for the device is dependent
in part upon the total amount of flux present in the magnetic core.
A0202-02 Correct, if the other design factors such as the number of coils, number of winds and same velocity of the magnetic
gas or slurry are maintained, the limitations of the maximum level of magnetic saturation of the EFH series ferrofluids
can be mitigated. Basically scale up the volume and the magnetic saturation can be lower and still provide the
design power output. While the 400 Hz mil-spec converters are still an option for the magnetic drives I think
you may want to just keep it simple so that operating frequency matches the 50 or 60 Hz standards for output for
residential use.
A0202-03 thnx to thorzpwr
A0203=01 ok, you forgot to hide your location ,metadata i'll fix it zo the mib's don't get ya......lol
A0205-01 Since output data is only available for the 6Tmaggas EPG and for the velocity of the magnetic medium, 'I think a problem approach might be
to determine the flux in the 6 multi-tier system as if EFH-1 was present and then scale down to the magnetic pump system and volume of EFH-1
at the stated velocity and use a ,calculated flux density to determine output characteristics of the magnetic pump device in terms of output.
The sizing of the bus bars, the parallel arrangement of the pick-up coils and the breakdown voltage of the insulation might put some upper
limits to how it was being operated and limits to the possible voltagexs and amps produced
Design output 220 VAC at 300 amps = 66,000 watts
A020601 So now let's assign values to some of the variables
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Cross sectional area is calculated as follows:
1. determine the diameter of the tubing 0.5" obtaiined by
photogrammetry 0.5 outside diameter also by Don Gabel measurement
2. determine the range of. possible internal diameters common types of pipe K L and M same outside diameter but thickness
of wall may have used coiled tubing.
A very useful free reference is The Copper Tubing Handbook fermi which provides the specifications and measurements for copper tubing and pipe
book
You can google The Copper Tubing Handbook for the pdf or just click on this link:
https://pbar.fnal.gov/organizationalchart/Leveling/2004%20water%20cage%20work/Cutubehandbook.pdf
One observation concerning the publicly available EPG images, it that there do not seem to be joints on the spiralled sections themselves although the connecting
copper pipes to the pumps or other means of moving the slurry or gas are straight. I believe Stan Meyers was practical and tried to keep things simple, so I believe
he just used
piping that was already coiled when purchased.
So, now let's use the above reference to get a range of possible values for the cross-sections of the copper tubing and pipes commonly available.. Copper pipe has three
basic wall thicknesses: Type K, Type L and Type M So even though the outside diameter may remain the same, a THICKER wall means a SMALLER cross-section inside the tube
So here's the values of cross-sectional area for different copper tubing and pipe in square inches:
Type K 0.218 Type L 0.233 Type M 0.254 So the cross-sectional area for coiled copper pipe is between 0.218 and 0.254 square inches
Since the 6 tier system is not available for examination at this time, there is a degree of imprecision for the cross-sectional area value
Because the cross-sectional area is used in volume calculations and in the calculation of total magnetic flux for these systems, the estimates
of system performance depend upon the type of tubing used in the construction
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Length of tubing carrying magnetic slurry/gas
Since the EPGs are of a general circular design, the formula C = D x Pi or stated -- Circumference of a circle equals the diameter of the circle multiplied by Pi (approx 3.1416)
Now, if you are trying to find the total length of tubing used in an EPG which is a spiral, for example(In this case exactly 3 loops, then think of this as 3 circles each with a different circumference
The outer loop is longer than the middle loop which is in turn larger the the innermost ring of loop.
So roughly speaking, let's say you had an EPG like the Magnetic Drive (Red Pump) System and that by examination or photogrammetry and it was determined that diameter was 17 inches
If you are using 1/2 inch tubing in the construction, what would be the diameter of the middle loop?
The radius of the middle loop is moved in by 1/2 inch because of the width of the outer loop or to put it another way the diameter of the middle loop would be 16 inches measured across its outside By a similar means of reasoning, the innermost loop is or about 15 inches in diameter.
So the length the spiral is approximately ( 15 + 16 + 17) times Pi. Now Stan Meyer for reasons of type of pump used, has some portions of the spiral having four loops instead
of three so adjustments will have to be made for this added length. The total length of is important because this is used in some on the calculations for the Volume of gas or
ferrofluid being used and also in the calculations for inductance and the number windings for the coils as well as the length of wire required for making the winding.
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Coils and length of wire need for project and per coil
End View "Tube" length
A formula for a single wind around a single circular core O diameter of wire times 1
1.A formula for multiple winds around a singular tubular core of length L O diameter of wire times N number of windings or wraps
2 A formula for multiple winds around two adjacent tubular cores of length L OO diameter of wire times N number of windings or wraps
.3 A formula for multiple winds around three adjacent tubular cores of length OOO diameter of wire times N number of windings or wraps
4 General Formula for multiple winds around multiple tubes OOOO... diameter of wire times N number of windings or wraps
So the length of the tube determines the total number of wraps possible independent of the number of adjacent tubes (close wraps no spacing between wraps on tube
Formula Length of tube (think inductor core) equals the number of wraps times the width or diameter of the wire L= N times W or L/ divided by W = N
ay of determining the number of wraps that can fit on a given length of tube or core
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Now for the fun part determining the Length of Wire needed for one wrap around multiple adjacent cores
Formula for 1 core O L = Diameter of core times Pi
Formula for 2 adjacent cores OO L = (Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 2D <--- for the wire that bridges the "notch" between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
Formula foe 3 adjacent cores OOO L = (Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 4D <--- to account for the length needed to bridge 2 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
Formula for 4 adjacent cores OOOO L = Diameter of core times Pi) PLUS 6D <--- To account for the length needed to bridge 3 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)
In summary, we now can calculate the length of a single wrap of wire around multiple adjacent cores and if we multiply that by the number of wraps or turns that can be wrapped on a given linear length of core
it is helpfun in deciding amount of wire needed
General Formula for Single Layer 1 wrap or turn around multiple adjacent tubes
L length equals ( Diameter of core or tube) plus ( ( N or number of cores minus 1) times 2)
So now is possible to calculate the number of winds or wraps (single layer0 around an EPG if we know the diameter of the outermost core of a spiralled EPG, the number of "loops" in the spiral, the outside
diameter of the core tubing and the gauge, diameter or width of the wire used to wrap the core
t
So lets give a quick try for the multitier 6TmaggasEPG
1 tier is about 17 inches in diameter. Since the line drawing of the 7 tier system and photographs show the drain/connecting tubes are 180 degrees apart so its possible to keep the number of loops for a tier to
be 2.5 3.5 or 4.5 loops or if the connecting tubes are all exact integers of loops the connecting tube could be all on one side. Or the direction of the flow could be counterclockwise one one tier and clockwise in the other tier. So based on the line drawing lets say that that each tier has 3.5 loops
Length of core for 1 tier [ ( 15+16+17)]times Pi ] plus( 1/2 times 14 times Pi) = 150.78 + 29.99 = 172.77 inches 6 tiers 1036 inches
172.77 inches divided by .025 inches per turn (22 gauge wire by photogrammetry = maximum 6910 turns per tier
6 times 6910 = 41,460 turns or if you use exactly 3 loops per tier 150.78 times 6 = 904 inches 904 divided by 0.025 = about 36,191 turns 6 tiers 906 inches
Image a n inductor with between 36 and 41 thousand turns of wire and between 75 and 86 feet long !! depending on method of construction
Design parameters Metric
The design output is 220 volts at 300 amp draw 66,000 watts (Watts)
(W) 220 times 300 amp draw = 66,000 watts
The cross-sectional area of the core is between 0.218 and 0.254 square in (A) = 1.406 to1.634 sq cm
0.0001634 square meters
The frequency is 60 cycle AC (F) (= 60 cycles per second
The voltage is 220 ( V) = 220 volts
Constant 4.44 k = 4.44
Bm =BetaMax
V = 4.44 times F*N * BetaMax * A
Solving for Betamax
220 divided by( 4.44 times 60 Hz/sec frequency times 36191 x .218 A sq inches = .0001046
now to work on units......
Next Topic Multiple layer coils
This is more useful to calculate wire requirements for the Mechanical Pump EPG .
Since it's possible to estimate the thickness of the coils, the length of the original coils,
the gauge of the wire and velocity of the ferrofluid 50 ips and using a flux value estimate
a power output for the Mechanical Pump EPG.........



If you put a vacuum on one end of
a long plastic tubing and hold the other
end in some steam, closely spaced little
plugs of water will form and start
flowing through the tube in succession.
A bunch of ionized atomic hydroxy gas particles,
injected with the steam, would then form regions
of negative charge between the plugs of water.
Would the diamagnetism of the water flowing in
a loop around a coil affect the charge clumps'
ability to generate a signal in the coil?
Or would it make it stronger?
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A regulator could send a series of bubbles through
a riser tube surrounded with a number of rings.
A ring which is grounded while a charged bubble
passes through it will retain a charge after the bubble
and ground connection are gone.
More rings provide more available potential to
feed back to the cell.
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I'm starting to think this is a pretty good idea.
The Miliken charged water drop apparatus can build
up a substantial charge sending drops through a
single ring. Using a large number of rings in
tandem with charged bubbles could rapidly accumulate
a usable amount of energy. It's just a question of
how many rings each bubble has to pass through to
provide enough milli Amps to generate a new bubble
in an appropriate amount of time. Or it could be
wired up to output a series of pulses, rather than
for accumulating a heavy charge.
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With electrostatic induction, a ring will 'see' an ion
filled bubble when it's at a distance of two and a
half times the radius of the bubble. Anything greater
than that is considered as infinity, electrically.
Two rings have to be spaced a little more than two and
a half times the diameter of the bubble sitting between
them, in order for the rings to be discharged.
If the bubbles are tightly fitting in the riser tube,
the rings can be spaced at two and a half times the
tube diameter. And this spacing is between adjacent
edges of the rings, discounting the width of the rings.
The number of rings is limited only by the length of
the riser. Which could be dangled from a tall building
or even a high altitude balloon.
This thing will either never produce enough energy
to generate it's own bubbles, or the bubble stream
will require only a specific number of rings to close
the loop. Even if this number is large, many more
rings can be added. Apparently, the charge on the
ions doesn't leak off, or else the bubbles would
shrink, due to less Coulombic repulsion.
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Having charged ions inside the bubbles is an important part
of it. This doesn't happen with normal electrolysis.
My electrode with baffles added produces bigger
bubbles which shoot upwards, zipping back and forth
at certain points. This tells me the bubbles are charged.
Another part of it which is just as important
is increasing bubble production.
I've found out that I can run a MOT at 5.8 Watts
on the power meter. I use the same current limiting
capacitors (7 Mfd) as before in series with one input wire.
This makes about the same number of bubbles.
But switching the caps for a much larger value, then a 60 W
light bulb doesn't make a bit more. More milli Amps doesn't
make more bubbles. So I'll see if it's voltage related
by using some other little transformers for 3.5 kV and 12 kV.
Current limited, of course.
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to form the magnetic gas matrix, both the argon and the paramagnetic
metals from the transitional series must be in an ionized
state. The removal of electrons using the electron extraction
circuit helps to stabilize the orientation of the paramagnetic
atoms with the argon acting as a neutral spacer in the matrix.
By pressurizing the mag gas the amount of magnetic flux per
unit volume is increased thereby increasing the output obtained
with the pickup coils surrounding the copper tubing channels
link to njce epg site
https://www.nikola-truck.com/epg-electric-particle-generator
in the multi-tier epg, two linear magnetic pumps were used.
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His gasses were magnetic, passing through wire pickup coils.
(A MAGNETIC Particle Generator). My proposal involves electrified
gasses from water, passing through electrostatic charge coupling rings.
I'm not sure a coil would register a static charge.
I just tested a 1.5 V adaptor plug transformer.
This should produce 9.6 kV when reverse wired.
It does make a decent hV spark, even with a current limited primary.
I should have time to check the bubble quantity in a few days.
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An electric charged particle is a Soure of electric field...
Electric Field Alone wont be able to induce current anywhere.
To have current output first we need to add work to it energy in
form of movement... second this movement must be pulsed or oscilatory
so it can induce in a second output coil.
From my perspective the epg tube can be of of this set of coils...
I imagine it working like the primary of a tesla transformer...
I did few on the epg tests... hope to have more condition in the
future to be able to make more tests...
One thing about the charged particle is that when it's moving is
like a wire flowing electricity so it works like a coil and have
a certain magnetic field associated with that charge... however
a charged particle inside a metallic tube will readily lose its
charge to the tube raising the voltage...
The epg should have a manner to keep the charge inside...
Must have high isolation or there will be no charge at all
The power input is the pressure of the hydrogen produced...
and flow is perhaps pulsed by solenoid valves..
Stan show a motor recirculating and so perhaps it mean that
the main problems is to keep the ionized particles inside because
it takes also power to ionize them... the output will be gases
that were not ionized in the process... a tokamak keeps the
plasma from touching the walls of the toroid using a toroidal
magnetic field... so particles with no charge is not trapped...
the higher the pressure more particles will be inside...
and hotter it get.
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A moving electrical charge produces a circumferential
magnetic field. When a charge moves axially through a coil,
the charge's magnetic field is parallel to the windings.
This will not produce an output from the coil, whose windings
must be cut by the flux. Getting current from the coil
requires a different geometry, such as shown, for example,
in Figure 1a of patent #3,196,296. This demonstrates
conclusively that Stan's EPG circuit does not use ionized gas.
I think what he meant by EPG was an electrically
powered particle generator, with the particles
being magnetic.
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These magnetic particles are not Monopoles.
Each particle has a North and a South. When moving,
the particles will line up N-S-N-S. There won't be
any adjacent particles both having the same pole pointing
in the same direction, askance to the flow.
So, when a pulse enters a coil, the flux lines will
be perpendicular to the coil windings. As the pulse
moves towards, then past the center of a coil, the
flux will expand, then contract, as seen by the coil.
This produces a rising, then falling output
from the coil. How this might produce more output
than input is a mystery to me. But it would provide
a convenient non electronic pulse generating system.
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imho Unlike liquids, gases can manifest compressional waves.
For the mag gas systems linear magnetic pumping creates
sequential zones or waves of greater and lower flux levels.
in the circulating
gas. This is analogous to soundwaves and varying pressure
and air density The movement of varying flux past the
pickup coils induces a current.
Also by decreasing the distance between the zones or
waves of higher flux density ( think increasing frequency
of mag pulses in linear drives) it is analogous
to cutting more lines per/sec
In the mechanical drive EPGS, it is the increasing
velocity that increases the output but only if the
increased magnetic zones are
synchronized to the coil spaces. For example if the
mechanical drive has let's say sixty pick up coils
and the velocity of the ferrofluid is( as reported0"
50 ips and the ferrofluid is pulsed once per second
and the alignment coils and the circumference of the
"loop" is about 50 inches (pi times 16), there would
be 1 zone of aligned ferrofluid imparting
a magnetic pulse to 60 coils in 1 second. But if you
create 2 magnetic pulses in the core at twice the
frequency, you now have all the pickup coils being
subject to 2 pulses per second It is like having 2
magnets on a generator rotor. If you pulse 60 times
per second in the final alignment coil AND have proper
tuning so that all the magnetized zones in the ferrofluid
are passing the pickup coils at the same time
you have multiplied the output by sixty times
In the parallel setup, it the train of pulses
are not aligned properly, the one current induced
in one coil could be cancelled out by another
magnetic zone arriving too soon or too late
or leaving the next adjacent pickup coil...
That why Stan is seen adjusting the EPGs
Question 1
Theoretically, when creating the Argonide series with the paramagnetic transitional metals for mag-gas matrix formation, is it better to flood the
reaction chamber with excess argon with subsequent centrifuge separation of the heavier metal Argonide gas or to use a 4 or 6 :1 ratio to approximate
the preferred lattice arrangement thereby increasing the magnetic coupling of and alignment of the formed metal Argon matrix prior to the final pulse magnetization?
Question 2
In the available EPG imagery, tapered hose fitting are sometimes used. Are thye used to evacuate .the copper spiraled channels of air or in the filling of the
copper channels with ferrofluid or mag gas?.
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Regarding the 2 EPGS that use tapered tube connections
1 is visible at the top tier of the multi-tier mag-gas EPG (aka GEGA).
Another is visible on the EPG coil that has the tag 1 and 1/4 cup affixed
I think a vacuum was used to draw the ferrofluid through the ferrofluid devices
Perhaps the multi-tier was filled at the top
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imho Unlike liquids, gases can manifest compressional waves. For the mag gas systems linear magnetic pumping creates sequential zones or waves of greater and lower flux levels. in the circulating
gas. This is analogous to soundwaves and varying pressure and air density The movement of varying flux past the pickup coils induces a current.
Also by decreasing the distance between the zones or waves of higher flux density ( think increasing frequency of mag pulses in linear drives) it is analogous
to cutting more lines per/sec
In the mechanical drive EPGS, it is the increasing velocity that increases the output but only if the increased magnetic zones are
synchronized to the coil spaces. For example if the mechanical drive has let's say sixty pick up coils and the velocity of the ferrofluid is( as reported0"
50 ips and the ferrofluid is pulsed once per second and the alignment coils and the circumference of the "loop" is about 50 inches (pi times 16), there would be 1 zone of aligned ferrofluid imparting
a magnetic pulse to 60 coils in 1 second. But if you create 2 magnetic pulses in the core at twice the frequency, you now have all the pickup coils being
subject to 2 pulses per second It is like having 2 magnets on a generator rotor. If you pulse 60 times per second in the final alignment coil AND have proper
tuning so that all the magnetized zones in the ferrofluid are passing the pickup coils at the same time you have multiplied the output by sixty times
In the parallel setup, it the train of pulses are not aligned properly, the one current induced in one coil could be cancelled out by another magnetic zone arriving too soon or too late
or leaving the next adjacent pickup coil...That why Stan is seen adjusting the EPGs
q for wolverine69 req image zb from memo 418 appendix if available
a thanks i think i already saw this at a conference 3 or 4 years ago but thank again
posted as attachment 2
q for sandia 24 req for velocity measurements epg mag gas/slurry
a thanks posted as attachment 1
q for librarian12 req for epg detail photos series 1 or 2


EPG Brainiac Annex

transducer that measures fluid flow by the voltage induced across the liquid by its flow through a magnetic field. A magnetic field is applied to the metering tube, which results in a potential difference proportional to the flow velocity perpendicular to the flux lines. The physical principle at work is electromagnetic induction. The magnetic flow meter requires a conducting fluid, for example, water that contains ions, and an electrical insulating pipe surface, for example, a rubber-lined steel tube.
If the magnetic field direction were constant, electrochemical and other effects at the electrodes would make the potential difference difficult to distinguish from the fluid flow induced potential difference. To mitigate this in modern magnetic flowmeters, the magnetic field is constantly reversed, cancelling out the electrochemical potential difference, which does not change direction with the magnetic field. This however prevents the use of permanent magnets for magnetic flowmeters.
A magnetic flow meter relies on Faraday's Law of Induction to measure the flow of a fluid. Magnets outside the pipe create a magnetic field. Electrodes are located perpendicular to the magnets.
A conductive fluid moving through the pipe will generate a voltage (electromotive force) between the electrodes due to Faraday’s law. The faster the fluid moves through the pipe, the higher the voltage. Once you know the velocity of the fluid, you can calculate flow using the cross sectional area of the pipe. In this video,
I walk through some of the details that electrical engineers have worked out so that this ingenious device can work properly. Unfortunately I couldn't get it working very well myself! Want to learn more?
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flow_meter
Neha Girme Blog - https://nehagirme.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/electromagnetic-flowmeter-design/
Due to the Rarity of this knowledge and methods and components and products
I Suggest and invite your
Donation at this time

PRINCIPLE OF OPERATION:
The operation of a magnetic flow meter is based upon Faraday’s Law, which states that the voltage induced across any conductor as it moves at right angles through a magnetic field is proportional to the velocity of that conductor.
Faraday’s Formula:
E is proportional to V x B x D
Where:
E = The voltage generated in a conductor
V = The velocity of the conductor
B = The magnetic field strength
D = The length of the conductor
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Maximum EMF is induced when the electrodes are placed across the diameter of the pipe and the direction of the flow.
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The direction of the magnetic field and the line joining the electrodes are all mutually perpendicular to each other.since the liquid is in continuous contact with the element of conductor between the electrodes,there will be an equivalent of short circuiting effect.
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Thus the actual voltage across the electrodes will be less than VBD.
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If the field extends over the large area ,this effect is less at the central portion of the field

Read Further for Details!!!
Finally, I could find some pictures of the running model of magnetic flow meter which I had developed! Quality of the image is not quite good but still I would post them!



POWER SUPPLY:
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The circuit needs 12V power supply for generation of biphasic waveform and the amplifier needs +6V and -6V supply. Sample and hold circuit needs dual power supply of 5 volts
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BIPHASIC WAVEFORM GENERATOR:
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The driving circuitry used to drive the coils of the sensor. The clock for IC4017 is generated using Schmitt trigger inverter 74HC14.the IC4017 gives 10 decoded outputs . Out of them 3 outputs are taken as reference for measurement for sample and hold circuitry; decoded output 3,6 and 9. The four channel push-pull driver IC L293D is used to drive the coils.
The output of this driving circuitry can be obtained as

Why Biphasic waveform is used to drive the coils??
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Sine wave is a continuously varying waveform. And if this signal is given to coils then the magnetic field generated will be continuously varying and that may create problems in measurement of output.
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Square wave consist of either positive or negative peaks but in this case we need the waveform generating positive as well as negative peaks.
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Due to ionic contact between electrodes and conductor some electrochemical voltages and currents are generated. These may interfere in the measurement of EMF due to water .So to avoid these errors,biphasic electromagnetic field is used.
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Rapidly changing polarity of currents ensure that, electrodes are not actively corroded.
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Due to symmetrically opposite currents errors due to charging time of boundary layer capacitance are also avoided.
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SENSOR:
The flow meter sensor consists of two coils with specific number of turns and two sensing electrodes made up of stainless steel 304 (SS304). As the coil resistance is very small the current variation in coil is very negligible.
The sensing electrodes placed diametrically opposite to pick up maximum signal. This signal is very small i.e. in mV which is given to 2 stage amplifier.
SPECIFICATIONS:
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Number of turns in coil: 850
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Coil resistance: 50ohms each
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Electrodes Material: Stainless steel 304,nonmagnetic.
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Pipe size: 1inch
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Pipe material: PVC.
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Constant voltage source used
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AMPLIFIER CIRCUIT:
This is a two stage circuitry consisting of instrumentation amplifier AD620 with variable gain and a variable gain amplifier OP07. As the signal coming from the sensor is very small in magnitude the signal needs to be amplified considerably.
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SAMPLE AND HOLD CIRCUIT:
The decoded output coming from decoded IC 4017 is taken out for measurement from biphasic waveform generator circuitry. The positive peak and ground signal is sampled and given to the differentiator. The o/p of differentiator is again sampled and hold with the use of analog switches and high input impedance operational amplifier.
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DIGITAL PANEL METER:
LCD digital panel meter is used to display the signal of flow meter. It needs 9V power supply.
CONSTRUCTION:
The magnetic flow meter consists of a flow tube, which is a non-magnetic pipe lined with an insulating material. Embedded within the flow tube are a pair of magnetic coils, positioned 180° from each. Positioned 90° to the center line of the magnetic field are a pair of electrodes which penetrate the pipe and its lining. An integral or remotely mounted signal converter amplifies the signal and converts it into a standard analog signal (4 to 20 mA) and/or pulse output representing a predetermined volumetric unit.

SIZE OF THE TUBE:
The size of the tube used is a one inch diameter pipe. One of the reasons for using this size is that it is easy for demonstration purpose. The tube is coupled with variable pump or series motor pump so that the flow can be varied. For calibration purpose a precalibrated drum or an existing commercial magnetic flow meter or both can be used for calibrating and checking purpose.
ELECTROCHEMICAL EFFECTS:
A magneto-inductive flow meter includes a measuring tube containing an electrode that is provided with an electro-conductive coating, as a result of which the galvanic contact between the electrode and the medium that flows through the measuring tube is indirect, i.e. via the electro-conductive coating. This produces an electrode that offers mechanical strength and is conducive to interference-free measuring signals.
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Metal electrodes that are in direct contact with the flowing medium form an electrochemical boundary layer, capable of producing electrochemical direct-current voltages whose order of magnitude may be several 100 mV.
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These electrochemical direct-current voltages can change quite rapidly, for instance as a function of variations in the local flow rate of the medium at the electrodes due to turbulences, of operating-pressure fluctuations, of the pH value of the medium, of the composition of the medium especially while chemical reactions are still going on in the medium, of solid particles carried by or particles suspended in the medium and interfering with the boundary layer on the electrodes, or of solid particles in contact with or indeed impinging on the electrodes.
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All these factors lead to statistical fluctuations of the electrochemical direct current at the electrodes with amplitudes ranging from a few μV to several 10 mV. These statistical voltage fluctuations are also referred to as random noise.
PROBLEMS DUE TO MEASUREMENT OF ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITANCE:
An magnetic flow meter is provided which includes a reference electrode configured to electrically couple process fluid flowing within a flow tube of the flow meter. The reference electrode is adapted to measure potential of the process fluid. A current limiter is configured to limit current flow through the reference electrode and thereby reduce corrosion of the reference electrode.
NEED FOR HIGH INPUT IMPEDENCE DIFFERENTIAL AMPLIFIER:
Since we are using biphasic excitation of magnetic field with no generation of magnetic field in between and we provide synchronous sampling of the generated emf, there is a need of having a very high input impedence differential amplifier. Another reason being the choice of electrode we opt. in this case we are using the stainless steel electrodes.
NEED FOR BASELINE CORRECTION:
Baseline correction is very important to get a steady signal. The baseline subtraction is done by inducing emf during zero magnetic field is subtracted from the observed emf during the steady state of the magnetic field.

You can see there are some spikes at the edges of the pulse.
PROBLEMS FACED WHILE IMPLEMENTING:
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Coil size
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Leakage
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Material for electrodes
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Grounding trouble: The ground conductor should not transmit any interference voltages, therefore, do not ground any other electrical devices together with this conductor.
OBSERVATIONS:
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It is observed that due to the ionic contact with the unit-moving element, certain electrochemical voltages and currents are generated.
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These may interfere the measurement of the EMF generated due to fluid movement.
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It is necessary to generate a biphasic electromagnetic field.
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The symmetrical currents in the opposite direction ensure that the sensing electrodes are not corroded.
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The rapidly changing alternating polarity also avoids errors due to the charging time required by the boundary layer capacitance.


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When magnetic flux lines generated by coils are cut by conductor then corresponding output voltage can be seen from the above waveform. The amplitude of this voltage is proportional to the velocity of the conductor,i.e,flow rate.
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Total flow can be given by,
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Total flow = flow rate X time
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The difference between the positive and the negative peaks is proportional to the flow rate. Thus samples are taken at positive, negative and baseline to get the corresponding differential output.
“Due to the huge response to this post, I am giving away the designed hardware PCBs (with complete BOM) at a discounted price.
Stanley A Meyer Mechanical Pump EPG coil parameters
« on: February 08, 2021, 04:05:44 am »
[An intrinsic portion of the Stanley Meyer technology had inductors, chokes and coils as important components
if devices. The voltage intensifier circuits( VIC)and the electrical particle generators (EPG)
Many of Stanley Meyer's patents and publications provide diagrams provide the general description or have live
drawings that lack exact component values of the resistors, capacitors , coils and chokes. Fortunately the high resolution
photographs from the L3 storage unit and by Don Gabel, The Orion Project and others allow for many printed circuits
to be closely reconstructed. The following article is related to the photogrammetric analysis of coils and inductors.
The values of the capacitors and resistors is much more straightforward using programs that match color code bands on resistors
with values and OCR image data files input cross-matched with component files based on supplier catalog scans.
METHOD 1. Determine Length of bobbin, thickness or depth of winding,/the wire gauge and method of winding
The diameter of the outermost EPG channel or loop can be estimated.at about 17 inches
Therefore the outer circumference can be estimated at 17 x Pi inches
By dividing the circumference by the observed number of coils an estimated length of each coil can be made.
A further refinement in precision can be made by subtraction of the total length L occupied by coil spacers.
So in the case where you count, let's say as way of example, 59 coils and 60 coil end spacers, each winding is
1/59th of the circumference of 53.4 inches or calculated at about 0.905 inches long.
Method 2.
Because of the high resolution photographs available, estimates of a coil can be made directly.
Using a known measurement such as the outside diameter of tubing ie. 0.500 inches
in conjunction with a screen distance tool in Photoshop(r) or another program such as
Screen Caliper(r) the length of the coil can be made.
THICKNESS
Since the outside diameter of the core channel is known, an estimate of the thickness of depth of winding
may be obtained by using photogrammetry to estimate the thickness of the winding.
The total thickness or height of the wound coil is first measured. Then the core diameter is then subtracted.
the resulting figure is then divided by two. This is the height or thickness of the winding around the core
So now we have what is call a winding window with height H and length L.
H TIMES L = A the area of the winding window. Think of it a a cross-sectional view of
the coil windings with the ends of each wire being viewed.
Something like this:
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
IIOOOOOOOOOOOOII
representing 3 layers of wire with 12 wraps (the II symbolizing the coil dividers)
3 layers of wire by 12 wires wide or 36 turns or wraps of wire around a bobbin
IIooooooooooooooooooII
IIooooooooooooooooooII
HooooooooooooooooooII
In this exsmple, a thinner wire could be wound 18 times on the same length of bobbin.
NUMBER OF WINDS
Since the gauge of the wire can be estimated with a good amount of precision
,the use of circle packing theory (see wiki) theory can be used to determine the
number of turns that can fit through this winding window( Area equals Height
times length.
One factor that helps, is that wires come in standard thicknesses or diameters
For convenience the AWG (American Wire Gauge) is used in electrical
and electronic work, Electrical wiring in the U.S. is often 10,12 or 14AWG
Electronic work is often uses 18,22, or 30 AWG gauge wire
Whatever the reason the smaller the AWG number, the thicker or larger
the diameter of wire!!
The reason this helps in photogrammetry, is that the gauges are discrete values
Look at this table:
AWG Diameter in inches AWG Diameter in Inches
10 .1019 20 .0320
12 .0808 22 .0253
14 .0641 24 .0201
16 .0508 26 .0159
18 .0403 28 .0126
30 .0101
The 16 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 18 gauge
The 22 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 24 gauge
Not to get too technical, but this is a logarithmic scale, but the important concept
is the PERCENTAGE OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAUGES IS LARGE
in relation to the precision achievable in photogrammetry
This means for a given photogrammetric distance is it easier to pick out the exact
gauge of wire used because the precision of the that method is often less than 2 to 5%.
PACKING FRACTION
There is a branch of mathematics which describes how many circles of uniform
size can be drawn in a given area. It goes by several names but let's just call it
Circle Packing Theory.
By determining the winding window size, the appropriate circle packing fraction can be used to
determine a close estimate of the number of windings per coil. In the previous example
cross-section of a coil, it represents one type of winding
One type of winding known as square or precision winding has each layer of winding with
turns directly on top the wires in the layer beneath with no offset.
Another type is hexagonal winding, with the layers arranged more like a honeycomb
And thirdly there is a random type of winding with lots of crossover and gaps
The hexagonal packing is the closest or most densest method of winding coils
with a value of 0.906 or about 91% of the area occupied by wire with the
balance of the area being gaps between the wires
Square geometry winding with each winding of wire directly on top the
layer below( No offset) has a value of 0.785 It is not at close or dense
a winding as hexagonal winding.
A random wind often a more gaps but the packing ratio is highly dependent
on the size of the wire relative the length and width of the winding window
Consider for a moment two equally sized sheets of sandpaper.
One is coated coarse grade grit, the other coated coated with a fine grit used for
final sanding. The arrangement of the sand grains is random in both
cases but there are fewer grain of sand on the coarse paper and
many more grains of sand on the finer grit paper.
This is analogous to the number of random winding or wraps of wire in a given
cross sectional area on a bobbin. Intuitively very small wire gauges have a
higher packing fraction than large. This is a difficult value to quantify
SO IN SOME CASES IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF TURNS
IN SOME CASES EMPIRCAL METHODS OR TEST WINDINGS MIGHT BE NECESSARY
As an example if the winding window is 1 square inch and the AWG is 22, and the tighter hexagonal
winding factor is used(0.906) then 0.906 square inches of that window is occupied by the area of the wire..
The cross-sectional area of AWG 22 is 0.0005 inches.
0.906/divided by 0.0005 =approx 1800 turns
With precision or square winding a factor of 0.78 can be used resulting in an estimate of 1560 turns through
a 1 inch square window
SUMMARY
Basically the application of the above method may be used to estimate the number
of windings for an EPG coil by photogrammetric means in some cases
A search of empirical transformer design charts might be instructive for this third case
of random winding. Empirical as well as advanced computer iteration calculations
are used
Method 3
There are on line calculators also:
https://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Coil-Physical-Properties-Calculator.phtml
MISCELLANEOUS COMMENT
POWER OUTPUT DEPENDS ON METHOD OF WIRING PICKUP COILS
It appears as though the mechanical drive epg was wired in parallel lower voltage and and a
higher amperage due to more coils
While the multitier EPG was higher voltage due to fewer coils and many windings which required of multiple tiers
It also could be that the effective value of the flux in the mag-gas systems was lower that the higher density ferro fluids
which might explain the need to operate at 90 ips velocity
Russ Greis has a nice build of the EPG that had jumper connectors at the ends of each coil so that the coils could be individually
So depending on how the jumpers were used the output amperage and voltage can be changed. The output voltage or amperage
can be varied but also be dividing the coils into 3 groups resulting in a three phase system
Other phase systems are possible such as six phase systems
A sixty coil system 1*2*2*3*5= 60 will allow for 1,2,3,4,,5,6,10 and 12 cycle output
Stanley A Meyer The Magnetic GEL EPG
« on: March 07, 2021, 20:02:55 pm »
It is well known that Brownian movement can suspend small particles of solids, such an in muddy water
or small fat globules as milk. In this novel approach to energy generation, Permanently
magnetized particles, and materials that that exhibit paramagnetism such as the transitional metals Fe, Ni
and Co are suspended in a liquid clear optical adhesive, a clear methyl methacrylate, Castolite(r) or
one of the glass hydrogels and clear SillyPutty(TM)
In the case of the clear optical adhesives a uv light hardens the adhesive
and the suspended magnetic material or magnetizable media is now
held in a fixed position (good way to make custom shape magnets)
In the case of the casting resins the hardening agent is acting like the uv light
During this process the gentle rotation of the reaction vessel can prevent settling before the
plastic or glue "sets" or solidifies
By proper selection of the viscosity and particle size, rate of sedimentation of nano magnetites
of the 10nM size or metal powders on the order of 50nM is not a factor during the hardening process
By injecting the casting resin or viscous optical glue into the spiral configuration of copper tubing
you now have a clear non-settling magnetics or matrix of magnetite and/or magnetizable particles
Now you have a tube that laser light can pass through in a pulsing manner, causing changes in the
magnetic flux in the pick up coils surrounding the light guide. Lenz law is not an issue since the magnets
are not moving , only the magnetic pulse wave in a linear and radial fashion.
The amount of Flux is dependent on the number of coils, the number turns, the length of the tube or
channel, and the frequency Because the amount of magnetic susceptibility is dependent upon the
concentration of the particles because of light scattering, the vol/vol ratio of nanospheres must be
low but first surface mirroring with chrome or silver plated conduction channel the light energy
is re-reflected within the channel Also manipulation of the index of refraction can reduce losses
of light energy And by increasing the frequency of pulse 400Hz the cloudiness of higher concentrations
can be offset to some degree
It's roughly analogous to a ruby crystal laser but in this case the energy is affecting the magnetic field
of the transitional metals and/or the paramagnetism of nanospheres of magnetite used in EPG power generation
In general the higher the viscosity of the suspension phase, the lower the sedimentation rate of particulate matter
The smaller the size of the particulate size, the lower the sedimentation rate
In the ferrofluids the typical particle is 10 Nm in diameter and Brownian movement can keep the small particle is suspension for
long periods of time especially if coated or in the prescience of a surfactant
So this led to investigation of more viscous liquids as Syltherm silicone oils, polyethylene glycols, and hydroarbon oils similar
to kerosene for the oil phase of the ferrofluids
The fact that nanorods of iron or magnetite are large enough to have a discrete north and south pole s( nanobar magnets )were then possible
Circulating aligned polar magnets seem to be part of the solution to the EPG generators
In general the higher the viscosity of the suspension phase, the lower the sedimentation rate of particulate matter
The smaller the size of the particulate size, the lower the sedimentation rate
In the ferrofluids the typical particle is 10 Nm in diameter and Brownian movement can keep the small particle is suspension for
long periods of time especially if coated or in the prescience of a surfactant
So this led to investigation of more viscous liquids as Syltherm silicone oils, polyethylene glycols, and hydroarbon oils similar
to kerosene for the oil phase of the ferrofluids
The fact that nanorods of iron or magnetite are large enough to have a discrete north and south pole s( nanobar magnets )were then possible
Circulating aligned polar magnets seem to be part of the solution to the EPG generators
the reduced
viscosity concept put the research on the right track
Stanley A Meyer Multi-Tier EPG Part List and Designators
« on: March 08, 2021, 17:21:26 pm »
Multi-tier EPG Build Listing 6TMaggasEPG mod 5 listing in progress
COPPER AND PLUMBING
Quantity Description Part Designator Materials
6 Spiral Tier ST 300 cm tubing per tier
6 Inter-tier Tube IT 22 cm each connecter
14 45 Degree fittings ITF 2 for each IT
1 Recycling tube RT 1
1 Top Feed tube TFT 22 cm
1 90 Degree fitting TFTF 1 * Recycling tube is greater diameter fitting harder to locate if 45 degree option
4 Linear Pump fittings LMPF 4 to connect linear mag pumps to RT
2 Taper Fittings TPF 2 for vacuum evacuation and gas/slurry fill
2 Magnetic pumps LMP for gas/slurry movement
1 vacuum pump
Wire 22 ga AWG IWW inductor windings
28 awg ACW alignment coils
qs 0 awg
4 awg
10-12 awg Romex(r) 3 conductor/w ground
HARDWARE
1 Plywood base for 7T gega Perspex for the 6T model use the Perspex 40 x 40 cm, for plywood larger to accommodate EEW ass'y
GAS
Quantity of gas required is pressure dependent, evacuate spiral core first open fill valve FV2 for gas introduction
for ferrofluid models measure out calculated fill volume for device and introduce from bottom slowly use2 inline
fluid traps before vacuum pump
ELECTRON EXTRACTION WELL (EEW)
6 Porcelain Light Bulb fixtures
6 Square metal outlet boxes
1 stepping switch to increase load on warm up
6 Incandescent Bulbs 100 or150 watts depends on amount of energy to be dissipated in electron extraction well (EEW)
do not use LED bulbs , they are too energy efficient!
qs Mounting hardware screws/bolts
Stan Meyer- Magnetized Iron Nanorods in Fluid EPGs Electrical Particle Generator
« on: March 11, 2021, 21:19:51 pm »
Advances in nanotechnology has provided a new area of research for the fluids used in mechanical drive electrical particle generators (EPG's)
The production of nanorods with lengths of 20 NM to 100Nm with transitional metals is now a topic that needs investigation The
100Nm length with S.A.Rs approaching 20, allows for discrete dipolar magnetic domains to be created in these nanorods just as electric
polarity has been shown in similar nanorods with polar ligands
For nanoparticles , whether spherical or not, Brownian movement is far outweighed b electrostatic and electromagnetic forces acting upon
the individual particles. Nanospheres have a Standard aspect ratio (length /width) of 1 with smaller nanorods having a standard aspect
ratio of 3 to5. The preparation of nanorods of 100 Nm are now possible resulting in larger Aspect ratios making even stronger discrete magnetic
domains possible
Electron microscopy is needed to view many of these structures due to their small size compared to the wavelength of visible light.
When the iron nanotubes are placed in a strong 400-800 gauss magnetic field the iron nanorods are not only magnetized but also become
aligned and are able to be moved and directed as are the medical ferro-fluids and chemotherapeutic when used..
Although the surface area of nanospheres is greater than for a similar molal -weight of nanotubes, the magnetic saturation is
approximately the same. Thus concentrations on vol/vol basis can be similar to the EFH-1 series ferrofluids used in the
mechanical drive EPGs by Meyer et al Once the iron microrods are magnetized permanently they can be circulated mechanically
with pumps and magneticallyaligned using a lesser magnetic force from smaller smaller
alignment coils prior and after flow turbulence and mixing by mechanical ( or even peristaltic pumps
Also magnet linear pumps can be used to create magnetic wave or zones of varying magnetic strength that pass by tie pickup coils
with the magnetic fields radiating outward from the magnetic moving core. Each nanorod is functioning as a small permanent
and aligned magnet Synchronization of the varying magnetic wave with relative to the speed of circulation
and spacing of the pickup coils would enhance output power.
Thanks to the blue team
Image attachment
1 Nanorods
2 Magnetically oriented nanoroads
Following the Berkeley concept--" the use of nanorods instead of nanospheres can increase the magnetic saturation of the 3d
printed structures". Also by "applying a rapidly changing external magnetic field, the structures vibrate allowing for localized
agitation as an aid in the removal of blockages at a microscale in the capillaries."
pat app JNL 3 days ago
2 Berkley 3d printed nano liquids
Now consider the work with magnetic liquids in California where a drop of magnetic liquid moving through
a coil
3 .questions Are the magnetic droplets acting like the neodymium battery train ( homopolar magnet)
and if the copper coil is made into a circular loop and pickup coils placed around the
"track" ( as in the multitier epg) is useful power obtained from the permanently magnetized droplets
comments?
regardsThe MHD technology has bee utilized in a Chinese power plant for a silent running
cruiser. The principles involved were discussed in WFC Memo 455 "Hyperdrive"
relevant site: click below
https://www.theregister.com/2017/10/27/chinese_navy_silent_magnetic_propulsion/
