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Stanley A Meyer MEchanical Pump EPG Power Gas

The flow rate of the slurry was about 50 ips in the ferrofluid systems (single tier systems) ref: tech
The circumference of the mechanical EPG series (single tier systems) was about 50 inches ref rwg replication

Tthe flashing timing led rate was about 60 times/minute in the single tier system ref :Dealership tape posted by irondmax

By adjusting the flow rate and rate of magnetization in the alignment coils ,the magnetized portions of the ferrofluid and/or

mag-gas are synchronized to the position of the pickup coils. This reduces the back eddy current and Lorenz forces while

the slurry or gas are circulated  The maggas systems were likely tuned in a similar manner although the  90 ips reported 

for multi-tier is due to higher speed required to compensate for the lower magnetic flux per cubic inch
but  this is compensated by a greater number of windings in the multi-tier systems 

he 7TmaggasEPG had a plywood base and row of 6 incandescent. bulbs.

After Stan's passing  this was not present in the inventory that QCI ultimately acquired
Also it was not present at the L3 unit when the TOP assessment was made

The Warp Drive Study

See warp Drive Page here 


Video credit: the alien scientist website

Some of the concepts may apply to the Stan Meyer technologies.

listen closely at about time stamp 3:25 and following about impedance matching,
something that is necessary and occurs at resonance in the Meyer cells

also at timestamp  5:46  increasing energy within atoms by photons    (aka laser or light stimulation)

 The Control of the Natural Forces   available at:

see link to negative mass article


as mass decreases, and  energy is released     (aka /Meyer
gnt) ;)
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Stanley A Meyer MEchanical Pump EPG Power Gas

A previous post detailed a possible process for the manufacture of  ferro argonide dust or powders to be circulated in
the electrical particle generated with the circular or spiralled channel of the devices

Ferro-Tec, a major supplier of ferrofluids to the world sells dry magnetite powders. It might be possible to mix these with  low viscosity carrier fluids perhaps a thin silane ,or mineral oil to create a slurry with high magnetic saturation
with viscosity appropriate for the mechanical pump and linear magnetic drive series of  EPGs

The new polyethylene glycol  PEG ferrofluids have very low viscosity but are aqueous in nature
Other dry powders are available with various  for coatings which might allow a variety of optimum liquid carriers.

Stanley A Meyer EPG and Stable Room Temperature Magnetic Liquid Compounds

Stanley A Meyer is said to have designed EPG devices that circulated magnetic gases and liquids
To date, the creation of magnetic gas matrices has proven challenging to the various EPG researchers
and working groups .  While the  EPG design and concepts have been fairly well elucidated by Miner,
Greis, and Hauswirth, et al,' the use of stable magnetic compounds that are single entity liquids may open
up a novel method of electrical generation in the liquid EPG systems.

"Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form
1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with
magnetic properties. However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a
change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic
ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid. Moreover, this magnetic ionic
liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic
susceptibility at room temperature."

The magnetic susceptibility can be further increased by the addition of  nano-particles in the 10 to 100 size range
that are used in the ferrofluid technologies. In this situation  the carrier fluid has a magnetic component to it as
well as the particles in suspension.   The kerosene based ferro-fluids such EFH and EMG series Ferrotech(r)
would  be good choice for the Series 6 trial    The ionic/aqueous ferrofluids will be addressed in Series 7 trials

source diagrams and chemicals 

Shimada, Kunio, et al. “Magnetism and Self-Assembled Structure Utilizing Micro- and Nano-Particles.” Journal of Metastable and
Nanocrystalline Materials, vol. 24–25, Trans Tech Publications, Ltd., Sept. 2005, pp. 121–124


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Magnetic Ionic Liquids

 Ionic liquids consist of only ionic components, having high ionic conductivity suitable for a liquid electrolyte. An electrolyte for a secondary battery requires not only high ionic conductivity but also non-volatility, heat-resistivity, non-inflammability, and non-corrosiveness. Ionic liquids cover these conditions.


The cationic component of ionic liquid involves alkyl-substituted imidazolium, pyrrolidinium, piperidinium, ammonium, phosphonium, sulfonium and the anionic component involves halide, BF4, PF6, thiocyanate, and di(sulfonyl)imide.


Chemical modifications of the cation and anion control melting point, viscosity and ionic conductivity. Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form 1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with magnetic properties.


However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid.


Moreover, this magnetic ionic liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic susceptibility at room temperature.

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Stanley A Meyer MEchanical Pump EPG Power Gas

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Stanley A Meyer EPG Style 1 Mechanical  Pump V1

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Stanley A Meyer Mechanical Pump EPG coil parameters

[An intrinsic portion of the Stanley Meyer technology had inductors, chokes and coils as important components
if devices. The voltage intensifier circuits( VIC)and the electrical  particle generators (EPG)
Many of Stanley Meyer's patents and publications provide diagrams provide the general description or have live
drawings that lack  exact component values of the resistors, capacitors , coils and chokes. Fortunately the high resolution
photographs from the L3 storage unit and by Don Gabel, The Orion Project and others allow for many printed circuits
to be closely  reconstructed.  The following article is related to the photogrammetric analysis of coils and inductors.

The values of the capacitors and resistors is much more straightforward using programs that match color code bands on resistors
with values and  OCR image data files input cross-matched with component  files based on supplier catalog scans.

METHOD 1. Determine Length of bobbin, thickness or depth of winding,/the wire gauge and method of winding
The diameter of the outermost EPG channel or loop can be  about 17 inches
Therefore the outer circumference can be estimated at  17 x Pi inches
By dividing the circumference by the observed number of coils an estimated length of each coil can be made.

A further refinement in precision can be made by subtraction of  the total length  L occupied by coil spacers.
So in the case where you count, let's say as way of example, 59 coils and 60 coil end spacers, each winding is
1/59th of the circumference of 53.4 inches or calculated at about 0.905 inches long.

Method 2.
Because of  the high resolution photographs available, estimates of  a coil can be made directly.
Using a known measurement such as the outside diameter of tubing  ie.  0.500 inches
in conjunction with a screen distance tool in Photoshop(r) or another program such as
Screen Caliper(r) the length of the coil can be made.

Since the outside diameter of the core channel is known,  an estimate of the thickness of depth of winding
may be obtained by using  photogrammetry to estimate the  thickness of the winding.
The total thickness or height of the wound coil is first measured. Then the core diameter is then subtracted.
the resulting  figure is then divided by two. This is the height or thickness of the winding around the core

So now we have what is call a winding window with height H and length L.
H TIMES L = A   the area of the winding window. Think of it a a cross-sectional view of
the coil windings with the ends of each wire being viewed.
Something like this:

representing 3 layers of wire with 12 wraps (the II symbolizing the  coil dividers)
3 layers of wire by 12 wires wide or 36 turns or wraps of wire around a bobbin


In this exsmple, a thinner wire could be wound 18 times on the same length of bobbin.

Since the gauge of  the wire can be estimated with a good amount of precision
,the use of circle packing theory (see wiki) theory can be used to determine the
number of turns that can fit through this winding window( Area equals Height
times length.

One factor that helps, is that wires come in standard  thicknesses or diameters
For convenience the AWG  (American Wire Gauge) is used in electrical
and electronic work, Electrical wiring in the U.S. is often 10,12  or 14AWG
Electronic work is often  uses 18,22, or 30  AWG gauge wire
Whatever the reason the smaller the AWG number, the thicker or larger
the diameter of wire!!

The reason this helps in photogrammetry, is that the gauges are discrete values
Look at this table:

AWG      Diameter in inches           AWG     Diameter in Inches
10           .1019                                 20           .0320
12           .0808                                 22           .0253
14           .0641                                 24           .0201
16           .0508                                 26           .0159
18           .0403                                 28           .0126
                                                         30           .0101

The 16 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 18 gauge
The 22 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 24 gauge

Not to get too technical, but this is a logarithmic scale,  but the important  concept
in relation to the precision achievable in photogrammetry

This means for a given photogrammetric distance is it easier to pick out the exact
gauge of wire used because the precision of the that method is often less than 2 to 5%.


There is a branch of mathematics which describes how many circles of uniform
size can be drawn in a given area. It goes by several names but let's just call it
Circle Packing Theory. 

By determining the winding window size, the  appropriate circle packing  fraction can be used to
determine a close estimate of the number of windings per coil. In the previous example
cross-section of a coil, it represents one type of winding

One type of winding known as square or precision winding has each layer of winding with
turns directly on top the wires in the layer beneath with no offset.

Another type is hexagonal winding, with the layers arranged more like a honeycomb

And thirdly there is a random type of winding with lots of crossover and gaps

The hexagonal packing is the closest or most densest  method of winding coils
with a value of 0.906  or about 91% of the area occupied by wire with the
balance of the area being gaps between the wires

Square geometry winding with  each winding of wire directly on top the
layer below(  No offset)   has a value of 0.785  It is not at close or dense
a winding as hexagonal winding.

A random wind often a more gaps but the packing ratio is highly dependent
on the size of the wire relative the length and width of the winding window

Consider for a moment two equally sized sheets of sandpaper.
One is coated coarse grade grit, the other coated coated with a fine grit used for
final sanding.  The  arrangement of the sand grains is random in both
cases but there are fewer grain of sand  on the coarse paper and
many more grains of  sand on the finer grit paper.
This is analogous to the number of random winding or wraps of wire in a given
cross sectional area on a bobbin. Intuitively very small wire gauges have a
higher  packing fraction than large. This is a difficult value to quantify


As an example if the winding window is 1 square inch and the AWG  is 22, and the tighter hexagonal
winding factor is used(0.906) then    0.906 square inches of that window is occupied by the area of the wire..
The cross-sectional area of AWG 22 is 0.0005 inches.
0.906/divided by 0.0005 =approx 1800 turns
With precision or square winding a factor of 0.78 can be used resulting in an estimate of 1560 turns through
a 1 inch square window


Basically the application of the above method may be used to estimate  the number
of windings for an EPG coil by photogrammetric means in some cases
A search of empirical transformer design charts might be instructive for this third case
of random winding.  Empirical  as well as advanced computer iteration calculations
are used

Method 3

There are on line calculators also:


It appears as though the mechanical drive epg was wired in parallel  lower voltage and  and a
higher amperage due to more coils
While the multitier EPG was higher voltage due to fewer coils and  many windings which required of multiple tiers
It also could be that the effective value of the flux in the mag-gas systems was lower that the higher density ferro fluids
which might explain the need to operate at  90 ips velocity

Coil Physical Properties Calculator

Russ Greis has a nice build of the EPG that had jumper connectors at the ends of each coil so that the coils could be individually So depending on how the jumpers were used the output amperage and voltage can be changed. The output voltage or amperage can be varied but also be dividing the coils into 3 groups  resulting in a three phase system 


Other  phase systems are possible such as six phase systems

A sixty coil  system   1*2*2*3*5= 60 will allow for 1,2,3,4,,5,6,10 and 12 cycle output

EPG SPiral for Fluid Stanley A Meyer Stan

A  3-D printing file for creating spiral inserts for the electrical particle generators (EPG's)  has been posted at

The idea is to print short inserts  that twist the magnetic slurries and/or gases within the 0.5 inch copper piping of the EPG's The work is very impressive but the suggestion that they should be inserted one after the other may lead to an unexpected result
see link!

"EPG Gas Core Helix

August 12th, 2013
Fits inside half inch copper tubing for a Stanley Meyer EPG. Print many of them and slide them in...

Excellent  work!

imho though...

If the ends of the spiral parts are not aligned to each other to allow a smooth channel between the inserts (let's say 90 degree rotation) then the spiral dividers are essential acting like a powder mixing column with each insert acting to triturate or divide the slurry/gas with each pass though  an insert. In the case of a 2 fluted insert,  a passage through 3 of the inserts would be essentially  dividing i into two channels then dividing again and then once more (. 8 triturations )

"Spitfire(r) propane soldering nozzles used a similar method to swirl and achieve excellent air/propane mixing which allowed for a very hot flame to be able to braze with out using the more expensive  "MAP" gas/or pure oxygen..

One reason that alignment coils are used in the EPGs is to correct the turbulence and mixing of the mechanical pump drive  in mechanical  pump EPG systems  In the gas systems, the linear drives  function both as an alignment coil and pump so the turbulence and mixing in linear flow is less. While the dividers are essentially adding more "cores" or channels which may be helpful in final power output, it may be outweighed by increased resistance to flow and turbulence effects.

Note for calculations

Some of the factors be considered when using the dividers

1. The number of twists per unit length of divider                   

This affects the angle of the magnetic flux cutting the pickup coils and power output

2. The volume  of the inserted divider per unit length               

This decreases amount of gas/liquid per length of channel

3. The increase of surface area contacting the liquid or gas     

This affects rheological flow resistance and back pressure

4. The decrease in volume or gas/liquid                                   

This decreases magnetic susceptibility and flux strength per length of  channel


One possible solution to the dividers is to make a  very long spiraled helix from silicone rubber with 2 to 3 flutes and to pull this through the copper channel.


Since the friction to do this was significant even when  the copper tubing was pre-lubricated with Teflon DriLok(r) or low viscosity Syltherm(r), another approach is to fabricate the tiers in sections o f10 or 20 ft lengths of straight tubing.  .


In the multi-tier systems
each spiraled tier required approximately 180 inches of tubing  is required depending  upon arrangement of the tier connecting tubes, so standard 20 foot length are  sufficient.

1. A long silicone helix is then pulled down through vertically and twisting the helix slightly to reduce its diameter (similar to threading a needle or when making rope) 


Once the silicone divider helix is through first section,  another length of the helix is threaded through the next section of copper pipe  or tubing  until six or seven are made, one for each tier. Then the soft copper tubing is coiled into the spiraled tier  using a jig made from an oil drum or other spool such as a wooden cable spool.  Since both the helix and copper are flexible   


(  because the temper of the copper can be removed prior  to helix insertion  by heating the copper tubing or pipe, Then the copper channel with helix inside can be formed into the spiraled configuration
2. The pickup windings are then wound upon  each tier using a toroidal  transformer winder or other similar device
3 The completed tiers are then fitted with. 90  or 45 degree connecting "ells" being careful not to damage tie silicone twist helix by excessive heat and also to remember proper offset angle  due to connecting outer and inner ends of the tier openings.

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