Tube Cell Wiring Secret
The difference Between a Bypass Diodes on your Voltrolysis tube Cells and Blocking Diodes on your Vic Driving Circuit Combiner box for the whole Voltrolysis unit and water fuel maker. A lot of People are Confused what these diodes are used for, are going to go over that now as part of our ongoing Stanley A Meyer Voltrolysis Teachings and advanced Methods series.
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Every Voltrolysis Unit tube Cell assembly should have a blocking diode on the DC volts in
and a bypass diode or multiple diodes between the Tube Cell pairs.
You can find these Bypass Diode by opening up your aluminum. Tube cell base cover or Blocking Diode can be found in the Multi Vic trigger junction box where your Voltrolysis Tube Cell pairs
Connect to. (Combining the Staged parallel Vic transformer Voltages to the Tube Cell pairs in Series.)
The Bypass Diodes are in the Voltrolysis Unit Base under the Aluminum RF sleeve cover (which stops coupling effects) There is 1 Bypass Diode between Every Tube cell pair.
What a Diode Does, is it allowing current to flow in one direction?
Even so it should be again noted, as this Stanley A Meyer Voltrolysis (Not Electrolysis)
As Builders we focus on raising the applied Step Charge DC voltage level applied to the tubes cells whilst not raising amps. The Resistance of those bypass diodes and blocking diodes aid in restricting amps with the chokes in the circuit to further reduce amps being drawn to the Cell pairs
and at the same time ensure Raising Voltage, as they also have resistance as Components in the circuit. The Tube Cells in the Voltrolysis Unit are Wired in Series between each tube cell set.
to ensure they can produce enough DC voltage.
To make enough voltage so the The Magnetic Water to Gas Separation Effect is maintained.
or what we call Voltrolysis.
So, first point is the number of Diodes in the cell sets Combiner.
box tells you how many cell pairs you have in the Voltrolysis Unit Cell Assembly.
Tube cell are always in Pairs never singular tube cells. As we balance the resistance of inner and outer tubes diameter by pairing the cell tubes in series. For the Bypass Diode Each Bypass Diode is Wired in Parallel between each Tube Cell pair in the Voltrolysis Unit.
This will insure even if 1 Tube Cell pair is empty of water or not performing/
The rest of Series Tube Cell pairs that this pairs is Connected to will keep performing and producing Gas via Voltrolysis at the right voltages.
So the Bypass Diodes bypass a failing Tube Cell set if is empty or not producing enough gas.
But if you are a beginner, you might be curious what a Series Tube set is,
so these tube Cells are wired in series so they can produce a voltage high enough at right rf in a balanced resistance way to be used to run Voltrolysis unit. without amps and make Hydrogen on demand from the Distilled water.
Inside a Typical 6 cell or 10 Cell Voltrolysis unit you will have paired set of tubes. for a 6 Cell you will have 3 Series Pairs 3 Diodes in Parallel for a 10 Cell you will have 5 Series Pairs 5 Diodes in Parallel
So it can create 0 to 600 Vdc in the Stanley Meyers Version 1 circuit assembly 8xa/9xb for example
This will ensure even if 1 Set is empty or not performing. the other sets keep performing at 0 - 600 Vdc from your Switch gate Control voltage level ( variac ).
The Tube Cells are Wired in Series and wired in set via series method also.
to ensure they can produce enough. DC voltage. To make The Magnetic Water to gas Separation Effect ,or what we call Voltrolysis. ( a non-electrolyte process) with no dead short or amp draw
So, in the Voltrolysis 6 tube Cell unit we have 3 Series tube cell Sets to create.
this effect. In the first tube cell set, if you look at how these tubes cells are wired.
it starts right here than it connects to this one and this and this one,
and creates a series tube cell set and complete Voltrolysis unit,
So, if any of these Tube Cell sets on this Series fail, that bypass Diode will allow voltage to flow past that Tube Cell Set on that series. Because if this tube cell set is failing to produce gas or in dead short from contaminates, it will bring down the whole Voltrolysis cell series performance. So, the Bypass Diode allows it to be bypassed And Because these Tube cell sets are in series, even if a single tube cell set fails, it will wipe out the Gas producing capability of the whole Voltrolysis unit and all its sets.
So, whether 1 Tube Cell Set Fails or Multiple Tube Cell sets Fail, that Bypass diode will still be activated and bypass that Tube Cell Set Failure. Provided that all the tube Cells are made with precision this also allow an easy range of PLL to tune to 1 cell set. Creating a close equivalent to a spider antenna tuning mechanism.
Also, if the whole Voltrolysis unit fails, then all bypass diodes will allow the whole Voltrolysis unit
to be bypassed in the case you have multiple whole Voltrolysis units. in series.
(whether they be 6 10 or 20 tube units) So if 1 Tube Cell Pair Fails it will not reduce the whole gas output of the while Voltrolysis unit or series of units, If I did not have these bypass diodes. I and I had 3 Voltrolysis units connected in series with this one, and one Voltrolysis unit fails all 3 Voltrolysis units would not produce gas. But because we have bypass diodes, if this 1 Voltrolysis unit fails the other2 Voltrolysis unit would still products gas. So, bypass Diode are very important for failing cells or units.
Now let’s talk about blocking diodes as they are completely different.
First Difference of a Blocking Diode vs a Bypass Diode is a Bypass diode is in parallel configuration?
with the series tube cells pairs. With a Blocking Diode, it is in series configuration to the Series tube cell pairs. So here is a Combiner Box Circuit layout and it shows. 2 individual Voltrolysis Units.
Traditionally in the olden days the blocking diode was used to ensure batteries did not discharge at night. You Can think of the Voltrolysis unit as a capacitor, due to the fact that it charges up and hold voltage. We want the cell to start charged so it keep producing during the gate off time. In Addition, we do not want to ground the cell. but in fact hold the cell charged. The more the water splits the more. free electrons become available in the cell and water charging it up further.
The more Positive charged the water the stronger the surface tension of water.
becomes and thus holds more nano bubble in suspension. So, the Blocking diodes perform that job first for us. But Blockings Diode have a Second job they can accomplish for us, they can be especially useful some Voltrolysis cell configurations.
For Example, when we use the Sequential Vic with the triggering system the vic are in parallel, it is possible if one vic or cell pair is under performing. It will lower the voltage of both bringing down the performance of the other cell pairs or vics and Voltrolysis unit. So, if you have 2 Voltrolysis Units in Parallel from vic trigger junction box you can ensure the lower voltage of one(the capacitance) will not bring down the voltage of other and thus they stay Matched. or in tune or in resonance.
Let’s imagine we have 2 Voltrolysis units, one unit is a higher temp or pressure.
than the other Voltrolysis unit. So, what will happen because they are connected?
in parallel, the lower producing Voltrolysis unit will discharge some. of the energy of the higher producing Voltrolysis unit.
Also the Voltages will not match so whenever you are triggering or scaling voltages
in parallel to these series pairs you want the voltage to match. So having a mis match could actually lower the voltage of both arrays if one of them is under performing.
So what a blocking diode does, is ensure this does not happen. it allows current to flow in only 1 direction and from each Voltrolysis unit. This method can be used on the Electron Extraction circuit also across multiple. Voltrolysis Units.
And typically, we will have 1 Blocking diode for Each Voltrolysis Units or Cell Pair.
But you can also do 2 pairs per blocking diode provided component max voltage.
specification allows it. That way you will have no fighting and current voltage.
will flow in an equal fashion to achieve max voltage in Tube Cell Pairs and Voltrolysis Units.
So over the course of operation, you will produce more voltage in the tubes and thus more gas / water fuel if properly implemented. Blocking diodes can cause a slight voltage drop but also they help us by restricting some amps via in line resistance and balance voltage made between the tube cell pairs to benefit our system, and tuning efforts.
Keep in mind we can see these diodes in our Multiple vic trigger system as we are sending scalable parallel voltage to series Tube cell pairs and Voltrolysis units. So the Blocking Diodes doing 2 jobs for us 1 Balancing DC High Voltages applied 2 Holding and stopping voltages from draining out of our water capacitor. (Voltrolysis Units) whilst protecting our circuits from damage
But if you have only a single Series Voltrolysis unit on a 8xa/9xb connecting to only 1 vic , we only use 1 feature of the Blocking diode. 2 Holding and stopping voltages from draining out. of our water capacitor. (Voltrolysis Units) whilst protecting our circuits from damage.
That is pretty much it. a Bypass diode will bypass a Pair of Tube Cells or
a string of Voltrolysis units. To ensure the maximum output from your Water Fuel Unit.
A Blocking diode traditionally used to avoid discharging of Water Capacitor.
but now days it is also used for when multi vic are connected in parallel to drive.
tube cell pairs or Voltrolysis units.
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Have not stopped working on VIC system I have been trying to figure out coils and capacitor relationship while I followed Ronnie’s explanation, I was missing something. It was not clear to me how he got the 2-volt difference between the inputs to cells.
I built my current set of coils following Ronnie’s post below. While I have the resistance close on each coil the turns ratio is not right. I knew that at the time and planned to fix it later as this set was to develop my skill in building the coils.
Interestingly, Ronnie’s instructions focus on resistance of coils and loads only. He explains elsewhere this is because when resonance is reached the resistance in the system still remains, so to get max power out of system you need to account for it.
As I am planning on only using six cells instead of 10, I felt I need to better understand why the coils are set up as they are. Ronnie stated you can scale system if you understand how this all works. So, I have been trying to increase my understanding. Read several articles and watched multiple YouTube videos most of them showed ideal equations only, but I did find a few that include resistance valves. Still, I was missing something.
Did not find what I needed until I looked at transformer articles. These had the information on finding turns ratio using impedance equations. This matched up to what Ronnie showed (posted his work below). The transformer articles also brought up the transformer voltage equations that showed the relationship of the number turns on the primary and secondary coils is directly proportional to voltage on primary and secondary coils.
This was one of pieces I was missing, if you know the voltage on primary you also know voltage on secondary and in our case also the voltage on chokes as they are all on same core. I know the VIC is more complex than that but the voltage difference across the two chokes can be set by number of turns using the turns ratio. Ronnie then says to take turns off one choke and put it on the other I to set voltage difference. (Ronnie’s post on this is also below.)
I took me a long time to feel confident number of turns in the Transformer equation for voltage is the same as the number of turns in the transformer impedance ratio. In fact, the standard notation for the number of turns is explained to not be a ratio.
The reason I was hung up on this is I found I could not measure the voltage difference across the choke so I did not know if I was getting it correct thing as I could not measure results. I did not understand the transformer voltage turns ratio when I first looked at this.
The thing that bothers me is the impedance turns ration includes all the resistance of all the coils, but it appears the voltage turns ratio 5.567 in Vic is only applied to primary and secondary. The chokes resistance values are match to secondary with turns adjusted to get voltage difference.
VIC I built is close as I wound the coils to contain the resistance from Stan’s coils. As wound the turns ration is too low. I looked at what it would take to fix this. Adding more turns to secondary and chokes would add a lot more resistance. However, if you increase the diameter of primary to reduce the number of turns you can raise the number without changing the resistance. This will not change resistance balance but will have an effect on impedance balance.
Note: Below I included thread referenced as it shows the load balance calculation coils.
Ronnie''s Post showing showing load calculations
« Reply #257, on October 30th, 2016, 07:36 PM »Last edited on November 13th, 2016, 02:32 PM
Using Stan's Vic and the numbers Don gave us as an example, I will attempt to show how to impedance match it all.
Question is what is the purpose of Impedance matching?
The answer is Watts in must equal Watts out. (Isn't that right Mr. Watts: clap:)
Let's start with the Primary, I have already show it has 10 ohms of impedance in it and how it is calculated.
Line(Primary) side=10 ohms
Next we use a transformer (Amplifier) to match the Load side.
we need to know the total resistance of the load side.
Secondary side= 72.4+76.7+70.1+Re78.54+11.5=310 ohms
Now that we have a total resistance of the line side of 10ohms
and a total resistance of the load side of 310ohms
Next we take the 310ohms and 10ohms and use this formula to get the turn ratio.
Ns/Np=sqrt Zs/Zp sqrt (310/10)=5.567
So we need a turn ratio of 5.567 to 1
We know our line voltage is 12volts We can times this by the turn ratio of 5.567 which is =66.816 Load Voltage
Now we have our load voltage.
Next we calculate the load watts
using formula (66.816 ^2)/310ohms= 14.4 watts
That's how you do it. :bliss:
Matt, The 11.5 is the feedback coil.....and yes that is correct the chokes must match the secondary....That's why if you take turns off the L2 they must be added back to L1. In Stan's example secondary is 73ohms close enough, then 76ohm for the L1 and 70 for L2 if you take 3ohms off the L1 and put that 3 ohms back on the L2 you can see they all match to 73ohms. Why does he do this? It's to get the slight potential difference in voltage needed on the chokes. Yea My brain can't keep all this straight, that's the reason for the spreadsheet. Too much math to deal with all at the same time. Now you can see when someone ask me a question, how my brain gets all scrambled.
Ronnies post about scaling below
I have never seen anyone totally explain his post below. Elsewhere he posted a circuit diagram that showed the 10 cells as 10 resistors in series with a value of 78.54 ohms (picture below).
Not sure what to do with information as he repeatedly stated this is not a resistance number but the dialectic value of water in the cell. So, I am not sure what to change for only 6 cells. Does this mean we should redo the impedance turns calculation using all ten cells?
In the case of capacitors when you have 10 caps in series the total value is 1/10 value of 1 cell.
I expect it would be desirable to keep total surface area the same but I am not sure.
Re: Stans VIC finally reverse engineered and ready to build.
« Reply #13, on December 3rd, 2015, 04:23 AM »Last edited on December 3rd, 2015, 04:40 AM
Nav, as you reverse engineer the VIC transformer, I would like to give you a very important hint. At the same time, you must reverse engineer the CELL at the same time. If you don't, the reversed engineered VIC will be useless as you have seen in the past that everyone has tried to replicate. Keep this number (10) in the back of your mind at all times while you’re reading and doing your research. Stan used (10) Cells in series with his VIC for a very very important reason. No one will ever be able to scale the VIC and Cell up or down unless they stumble upon why (10) cells were used in series. Just keep (10) in your mind at all times, it is a very important number while you’re doing your impedance matching research. This is one of the most useful post I have ever posted, and will determine if you or anyone are successful or not.
Thank you Earl
Dan's Comment ,
Please consider this in the testing as with solar cells it stops total collapse of production if one cell shorts.
1 Due to inner and outer resistance of different diameter of tube sets (inner Outer) batter if in cell Pairs (inner and outer) x2
it balances the resistance. Provided that the metals and tolerance are matching or close to matching and water condition consistent to both.
2 IF in Series Wiring if one cell in 10 expires , shorts or experiences excess bubbles impurities or dryness
the circuit will collapse production of all cells like what happen to Christmas lights when 1 globe goes down all go down,
stated for those following.. To Avoid this we can Test or use a Similar circuit to wiring solar cell on solar panel.
with a blocking and bypass diode. I have attached Drawing of this
4 I mention this now as we have found that trying to ramp and compound voltage held on the DBD Dielectric barrier of the cell to create voltrolysis can be shorted /stopped easily and only a true obsessed person can see that event if watching cell for years to see it. if any one cell is unstable due to bubbles which can vary depending on how much care is taken with water conditions temp and volatility, if can stop cell reaching resonance or optimum state of production at a stable capacitance. This of coarse aid the production during gate or in off time.
5 Ronnie Did hint as air/ bubbles change in the cell gap, cell voltage character changes
. As More Bubbles Present in Water/Cell
I am re reading your post to see if I have other things to add